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Old 09-18-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Absolutely. A criminal is a criminal. Whatever evidence is produced of crimes committed, let it be brought forth and the guilty parties charged and tried. I, and I would venture most of us, do not care if it's Trump, Obama, Hillary, or anyone else.

That said - if Trump is charged, tried, and convicted, are you willing to accept it?

With valid evidence - yep.


However, I do have a problem when justice is administered unequally. In other words, I have no problem with people being charged with crimes they have committed. But why is the Democrat, who did exactly the same thing, not even being investigated?


Why are we talking about Trump involved in Russia hacking emails - when Clinton was found with classified info on an independent server? Or when Huma has classified info on her laptop... and Weiner? Why were they let off the hook?
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: United States
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You would want somebody stopped for speeding charged for marijuana if it was found in the car during the traffic stop. If other crimes are uncovered in the investigation into the Russia conspiracy, why should Trump not have to answer for them?

Trump may not be directly involved in the Russia conspiracy, though people very close to him were. Trump isn't acting like an innocent man however. He's terrified that Mueller will uncover something.
Lets go with your example, but lets put it into context with the Russian investigation.

In your example someone is pulled over for speeding, but lets include the fact the the person was not speed, the officer used a false claim of speeding as a pretext to stop the driver, and search the vehicle.

The person was not speeding, there was no reason to stop him, and was only stopped to look for "other possible crimes", do you still think that person should face a drug charge?

Everyone needs to understand that there was no Russian collusion, there never was, and everyone knew it, including the FBI. They used unverified opposition research as a pretext to spy on, and then launch a special counsel investigation into the Trump campaign.

By saying you are ok with the Russian investigation, you are saying you are ok with the police stopping people for speeding, when they were not speeding, just to look for any potential crimes.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:24 AM
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Location: Trumpville
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Everyone needs to understand that there was no Russian collusion, there never was, and everyone knew it, including the FBI. They used unverified opposition research as a pretext to spy on, and then launch a special counsel investigation into the Trump campaign.
Trump's base and hate media knows there's no collusion. Meanwhile we've had numerous guilty pleas and indictments in the real world, some of which were from people very close to Trump. Fortunately, at least for now, just because Trump's angry base believes something doesn't automatically make it fact.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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I thought Giuliani said he couldn't do anything until the midterms were over or he would be interfering. Is he doing the right thing or the wrong thing by waiting? I can't keep up with the changing positions of the Trump team.

Interfering in what? President Trump is not on the ballot. So far as I can tell, none of those running for office in November 2018 are the focus of any Mueller investigation.



I imagine that Mr. Mueller will submit his report when he feels he has performed the job. If it is tomorrow, fine; if it is Christmas eve, fine. If it is not until next summer, fine again.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:28 AM
Status: "It takes a lot of balls to golf like me" (set 19 days ago)
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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You would want somebody stopped for speeding charged for marijuana if it was found in the car during the traffic stop. If other crimes are uncovered in the investigation into the Russia conspiracy, why should Trump not have to answer for them?

Trump may not be directly involved in the Russia conspiracy, though people very close to him were. Trump isn't acting like an innocent man however. He's terrified that Mueller will uncover something.
So we should just perpertually run an investigation on our political leaders to just uncover stuff? Slippery slope my friend.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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Trump's base and hate media knows there's no collusion. Meanwhile we've had numerous guilty pleas and indictments in the real world, some of which were from people very close to Trump. Fortunately, at least for now, just because Trump's angry base believes something doesn't automatically make it fact.
Not a single conviction or guilty plea was for "collusion". You nuts keep trotting out that same statement when it's irrelevant. George P. was supposedly some big bad spy, he got TWO F'ING WEEKS in jail! That's completely embarrassing for Mueller. Carter Page? Yeah, he's such a spy that he is still walking free and doing the news show circuit. Please, this ALL a ruse and it is tarnishing America with this nonsense. We are the laughing stock of the world because of Mueller and the Democrats.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:39 AM
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Location: Trumpville
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So we should just perpertually run an investigation on our political leaders to just uncover stuff? Slippery slope my friend.
You would be all for it if it was a Democrat and you would believe the conspiracies whether true or not, like Obama's birth certificate, Benghazi, or Pizzagate. You couldn't let investigations like Benghazi go even after it was thoroughly investigated. A lot of you people still believe Pizzagate and all it's absurdities.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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By saying you are ok with the Russian investigation, you are saying you are ok with the police stopping people for speeding, when they were not speeding, just to look for any potential crimes.
What do you think an impaired driving checkstop is?
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:46 AM
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Location: Trumpville
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What do you think an impaired driving checkstop is?
Which they are all for that typically for the supposed "safety of society" even though random traffic stops are totally unconstitutional.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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What do you think an impaired driving checkstop is?
To see if you're driving impaired. WTF? They don't have the right to stop you then search your vehicle just because they feel like it.
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