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Old 09-18-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Not a single conviction or guilty plea was for "collusion". You nuts keep trotting out that same statement when it's irrelevant. George P. was supposedly some big bad spy, he got TWO F'ING WEEKS in jail! That's completely embarrassing for Mueller. Carter Page? Yeah, he's such a spy that he is still walking free and doing the news show circuit. Please, this ALL a ruse and it is tarnishing America with this nonsense. We are the laughing stock of the world because of Mueller and the Democrats.
One of the carges against Manafort was "Conspiracy against the United States", e.g., "collusion". Since he pleaded guilty we will not know the evidence until this whole affair is over, and maybe not then. So there is, indeed, ample evidence that at least one member of the Trump campaign was involved in "collusion".

The question remaining is, "How many more members were involved - none, some, or all?"

A two week sentence means the story he had to share with Mueller's team was both highly entertaining and immensely valuable to the investigation.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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I believe Mueller has long had "evidence of collusion," but that this evidence is likely not admissible in an American court of law. Either that or the evidence is not strong enough for a criminal conviction even if it's considered actionable/highly credible by the intelligence community. This could all change with Mueller since he could potentially draw a straight line from Russia to Trump.
It looks like team Mueller is running a RICO investigation to roll up the entire conspiracy.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:22 AM
 
Location: United States
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Do you have a link to support that claim...?
Yes, Peter Strzok said it in one of his text messages, he said he knows there is "no there, there". Yes, Strzok outright said he knew there was no Russian collusion. Lisa Page also admitted that they couldn't prove any Russian collusion nine months into their investigation.

The US government has used every tool at it's disposal for over two years, and haven't proven any Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. There is a reason for that, there was never any Russian collusion, it was a completely false claim made by a opposition research firm to attack the Trump campaign.

The real story has always been, how could unverified opposition research every be used to investigate the opposing party's presidential campaign.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:23 AM
 
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One of the carges against Manafort was "Conspiracy against the United States", e.g., "collusion". Since he pleaded guilty we will not know the evidence until this whole affair is over, and maybe not then. So there is, indeed, ample evidence that at least one member of the Trump campaign was involved in "collusion".

The question remaining is, "How many more members were involved - none, some, or all?"

A two week sentence means the story he had to share with Mueller's team was both highly entertaining and immensely valuable to the investigation.
Exactly.

Manafort agreed to be a cooperative witness to get his prison sentence shortened.

That's how it works.

Can't believe this is so surprising to some.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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Criminal activity uncovered during the course of an investigation should not be ignored.

Why would it be?
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You would want somebody stopped for speeding charged for marijuana if it was found in the car during the traffic stop. If other crimes are uncovered in the investigation into the Russia conspiracy, why should Trump not have to answer for them?

Trump may not be directly involved in the Russia conspiracy, though people very close to him were. Trump isn't acting like an innocent man however. He's terrified that Mueller will uncover something.
The bulk of the serious crimes being uncovered were committed by Hillary, the Democratic party and those in power in DC that were Hillary supporters. Paying a foreign operative for a faux dossier. Leaking that document to the press. Colluding with the press to use that same information to influence a presidential election. Using the faux document AND the articles due to it's release to corruptly get a FISA court to allow surveillance. Using the power and tools of the federal government to spy on your opponent's political campaign. To say nothing about collaboration with a foreign power to sell strategic materials to an enemy.

So YES, bring charges for these crimes and start locking these scum up.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Another one who is posting falsehoods yet again. NOBODY EVER set up their own server in their own home like HRC did. What is up with you Left leaners and the truth? What is it? Why do you guys lie constantly?
A private server is a private server, regardless of the physical location. Those who blindly support Trump have apparently forgotten how to google. I got nearly five million hits on "trump administration private servers".

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...server/541017/

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...awyer-confirms

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/u...er-bannon.html

https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/polit...use/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ite-house-work

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a6adfee943f4

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-cli...y-right-493120
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The bulk of the serious crimes being uncovered were committed by Hillary, the Democratic party and those in power in DC that were Hillary supporters. Paying a foreign operative for a faux dossier. Leaking that document to the press. Colluding with the press to use that same information to influence a presidential election. Using the faux document AND the articles due to it's release to corruptly get a FISA court to allow surveillance. Using the power and tools of the federal government to spy on your opponent's political campaign. To say nothing about collaboration with a foreign power to sell strategic materials to an enemy.

So YES, bring charges for these crimes and start locking these scum up.
Not gonna happen. There are more of us than there are of you.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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You would want somebody stopped for speeding charged for marijuana if it was found in the car during the traffic stop. If other crimes are uncovered in the investigation into the Russia conspiracy, why should Trump not have to answer for them?

Trump may not be directly involved in the Russia conspiracy, though people very close to him were. Trump isn't acting like an innocent man however. He's terrified that Mueller will uncover something.
What people close to Trump were involved with this alleged conspiracy??? All the evidence points to Democrats.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Criminal activity uncovered during the course of an investigation should not be ignored.

Why would it be?
Any criminal activity Bob Mueller uncovers will be dealt with, if it involves his mother. He is apolitical and straight arrow, by the book.

Only the guilty have anything to fear.
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