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Old 09-18-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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A murder like Tibbets' is considered a crime against the people or state. The Tibbets don't get to direct the conversation around crime by illegals.


You can keep attacking the strawman and making apples and orange comparisons of the statistical rare bad apple citizens to illegal aliens who are all in violation of the law.
the derangement of the statement is noted.
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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the derangement of the statement is noted.
The derangement of stating we should tolerate illegal aliens in the face of a substantial number of them commit many other crimes.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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This thread belongs in THIS forum as well as the II forums.

We have a lotta worshippers of law enforcement around here, and if this guy was an illegal alien, the right wing on P&OC would be apoplectic. The mods would have to consolidate about 10 threads that would get started.
Not only that but Fox News would know ALL of the women's names, their families, their favorite dogs, etc and would report on it endlessly.

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Border agents: They are murderers. They are rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
Ha ha!
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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This should be in the crime forum. It wasn’t posted here because it doesn’t belong here anymore than a story about a pizza delivery boy serial killer belongs here. The reason we see topics on illegals is because they shouldn’t be here to begin with and a political issue allows them to stay illegally and commit more crimes.
The conduct and methods of ICE and border patrol has become a political issue as well.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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Angel parents? They asked him not to do it. They begged him to not use their daughter's death in that manner and he did it any way.
A handful of cases (maybe if that many) and you along with your leader will make it seem as though, they are all criminals that come into this country, which is so far off the truth, the derangement of the statement is noted.

Mean while the corruption being carried out by the BP agents, gets nothing, nadda attention.
It is not a "handful". Illegal aliens are responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of American citizens every year.

And even if it were only a handful, that is too many. What, are the dead just supposed to be the sacrificial lambs of illegal immigration so lazy cheating employers can eke out more profits and the Dems can get more votes? Screw that.

One death is too many.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:24 PM
 
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If only he wasn’t a member of the people of color.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:37 PM
 
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It is not a "handful". Illegal aliens are responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of American citizens every year.

And even if it were only a handful, that is too many. What, are the dead just supposed to be the sacrificial lambs of illegal immigration so lazy cheating employers can eke out more profits and the Dems can get more votes? Screw that.

One death is too many.

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Old 09-18-2018, 08:57 PM
 
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No, because most people understand that while a small percentage of the population are murderers at all, serial killers are even an smaller portion of those persons. For example the estimated population of serial killers in the US is low, somewhere from 25-50.

Do you understand what a small percentage that represents? You would need to meet at least 3M people to even encounter one.

And the odds YOU are going to be the victim, even tinier!

Now, compare that to the odds of encountering an illlegal alien. In a state like California, its around 8% or so. In other words, every 12th person here is an illegal alien.

Don't you think that given these vast disparities in the relative likelihood of an encounter, it makes sense there isn't much coverage of a serial killer who just happens to be an employee of the US Federal government? Based on the odds, he was the only one. So given an equal distribution of serial killers in the US, there are now ZERO serial killers working for the US government.


Do you understand what a small percentage of undocumented immigrants commit crimes against other people? You don't have any real data to back up your claims. Pretty much every study says that I am safer around immigrants documented or not than someone born in this country.

If you want to talk about who commits the violent crimes in this country, it is males who were born here. What are we going to do about our gender's violence problem?
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:06 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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At least I didn’t see one. Whenever an illegal kills someone, you can count on at least one thread stating that if we deported all of these animals we would be so much safer, but not a whimper on this?

John McCain’s former staffer Mark Salter made this comment on twitter.




https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkSalter55
How many Border patrol Officers are serial killers? How many have been arrested? That is the difference. This is the first that I am aware of to be arrested for being a serial killer.
Illegals on the other hand, citizens are murdered, robbed, raped, assaulted, etc. every day by illegals. That is the difference.
You may attempt to make the crimes committed by 1 border patrol officer the equivalent of what happened everyday by illegals, but it would be dishonest at the very least.

Then again I think that you knew before posting what a world of difference there is. Same as that huge difference between those who obeyed our laws and came her legally v.s those who simply broke our laws and snuck in the back way. The left likes to try and lump all immigrants together, intellectually dishonest to say the least. Sort of like saying not a single thread about this anywhere even though at 7:02 on 9/15/2018 a thread was started.
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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At least I didn’t see one. Whenever an illegal kills someone, you can count on at least one thread stating that if we deported all of these animals we would be so much safer, but not a whimper on this?

John McCain’s former staffer Mark Salter made this comment on twitter.




https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkSalter55
Because there is nothing political nor controversial, versus if an illegal immigrant does something similar.

It is pretty much common sense.
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