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Old 09-20-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Union County, North Carolina
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You know what else Germany has? Unions. Very strong unions.

I don't get how many Trump supporters on here talk about German manufacturing this and German manufacturing that and then denounce labor unions.
But you notice how those big German car manufacturers located their American plants in the South to avoid unions in "right-to-work" (for less!) states. Those BMWs and Mercedes are sure priced like they were built in Germany tho'! Where's that "big non-union labor" discount?
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Old 09-20-2018, 04:50 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Looks like Trump's tariffs on Chinese goods will hit Walmart big time! Get ready to spend some of that tax cut on higher prices at Walmart. Just in time for Christmas! I guess those kiddies will have to do with less toys.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/19/new...ina/index.html


Thanks Bigly Donald! Making America Groan Again!
Good! Stop shopping Walmart and let's put them out of business. Go shop at Whole Food, Trader Joes, small mom and pop places and stop putting the funk foods into your gullets.
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Old 09-20-2018, 04:52 PM
 
Location: The South
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There are probably 10000 threads about folks not buying stuff from Walmart, cause its all made in China. So now we get at 10000 happy people.Those happy people will change parties and vote TRUMP.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Union County, North Carolina
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There are probably 10000 threads about folks not buying stuff from Walmart, cause its all made in China. So now we get at 10000 happy people.Those happy people will change parties and vote TRUMP.
Ya think?
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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But you notice how those big German car manufacturers located their American plants in the South to avoid unions in "right-to-work" (for less!) states. Those BMWs and Mercedes are sure priced like they were built in Germany tho'! Where's that "big non-union labor" discount?
Yeah, well Volkswagen tried to unionize in Tennessee - but the states and politicians lobbied against it.

How Tenn. politicians killed Volkswagen unionization | MSNBC

Sounds like blackmail from Corker - of course, Volkswagen won't say a word:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...40213?irpc=932

German manufacturers work hand in glove w/unions in Germany. But, US GOP has a completely different dynamic - worker welfare comes last - contrary to German socialist ( - don't you rwnj's faint, now) philosophy.
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:26 PM
 
Location: PSL
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You know what else Germany has? Unions. Very strong unions.

I don't get how many Trump supporters on here talk about German manufacturing this and German manufacturing that and then denounce labor unions.
I never needed a union. There is no use for them. I'm going to pay into an arbitrator? To lay down/negotiate on my behalf? And be told to vote democrat?

Nah.

I called the shots at the interview. I laid my terms up front.
If there was no agreement onto the next one.

What is the sense of a union in 2018? With the amount of labor laws that exist. Why on earth does anyone need a labor union? Use your words. The worst an employer can say is no.
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: PSL
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But you notice how those big German car manufacturers located their American plants in the South to avoid unions in "right-to-work" (for less!) states. Those BMWs and Mercedes are sure priced like they were built in Germany tho'! Where's that "big non-union labor" discount?
Those right to work states also have significantly less taxes too
I wonder if that has anything to do with the cost of manufacturing...

Right to work for less? I made more money in Florida than I did in NY (when I worked for a dealership down here). Kept more of it too
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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I never needed a union. There is no use for them. I'm going to pay into an arbitrator? To lay down/negotiate on my behalf? And be told to vote democrat?

Nah.

I called the shots at the interview. I laid my terms up front.
If there was no agreement onto the next one.

What is the sense of a union in 2018? With the amount of labor laws that exist. Why on earth does anyone need a labor union? Use your words. The worst an employer can say is no.
its called strength in numbers. Small business there is not much need for a union. larger company or corporation definitely. try getting an appointment with warren buffet to negotiate your wage and tell me how that works out for you....
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Looks like Trump's tariffs on Chinese goods will hit Walmart big time! Get ready to spend some of that tax cut on higher prices at Walmart. Just in time for Christmas! I guess those kiddies will have to do with less toys.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/19/new...ina/index.html


Thanks Bigly Donald! Making America Groan Again!
The first round of tariffs are just starting to have an effect, however the real effecy will start next year if nor deal is reached, as that's when the $200 Billion tariff will start to be felt rather than the initial $60 Billion one.

It's actually worth looking at some trading facts and indeed what China actually exports to the US, which includes a lot of cheap electronic goods.

Understanding the US-China Trade Relationship - The US-China Business School

Why the U.S.-China trade deficit is so huge: Here's all the stuff America imports - Market Watch

Last edited by Brave New World; 09-21-2018 at 04:56 AM..
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Central Washington
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Enjoy your tariff-stacked imports USA! Canada is a national security threat to you. Get set for 25% higher lumber prices and 25% higher costs of steel and aluminum for your manufacturing.
Great! American steel mills are firing their blast furnaces back up, and aluminum smelters are restarting pot lines that had been shut down. And logging around here is busier than it's been since the early 90s. Thanks again!
And FYI, the tariffs on wood and aluminum are 10%.

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Manufacturing in the US has been pretty steady for decades.
No, it hasn't. It's all time peak was in June, 1979, at 19,553,000, was about 18 million all through the 80s, around 17 million through the 90s. Then Bill Clinton thought it would be a great idea to let China into the WTO. When they entered in 2001, there were still over 17 million American manufacturing jobs, by 2010 there were a little over 11 million left, the lowest number since February, 1941. In February 2017, the number of manufacturing jobs exceeded that of any time during the Obama administration, and grew 11/12 months last year, and all 7 months so far this year. And are approaching 13 million which hasn't happened since 2008.
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