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Old 09-19-2018, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Source it domestically
Wow - who knew it would be so easy to solve an extremely complex issue in a mere three words.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:27 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Wow - who knew it would be so easy to solve an extremely complex issue in a mere three words.
What? We can't have refineries and mining operations here? But everywhere else in the world can?

Here's what Germany does.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=chIFt2...ature=youtu.be
Any given day you can walk into a scrap yard and find literally TONS worth of aluminum that could be reprocessed.

They do it for steel too. Look what they do with the Slag by product-Aggregate for roads.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=uRfbFVQV4a8

Keep hearing excuses for raising costs and avoiding doing business here.
So let's hear it. Why do you oppose production, manufacturing here in the states?
Can't justify taxes raised to support welfare?
NIMBY?

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Old 09-19-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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GDP is running at 4%. The OP posted this, assuming that all Trump supporters shop at Walmart. Another ignorant post by an ignorant person.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Union County, North Carolina
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Source it domestically
That won't happen! Even with the tariffs, many components will still be cheaper to manufacture overseas. Start up and labor costs present an economic wall (unlike Trump's wall!) that can't be readily overcome. Many manufacturing processes are unfeasible in the USA at this point. Are you willing to make widgets for $2.00 an hour or $5.00 a day? Can you spray paint a car faster than a robot at less expense to the company? I think not! The USA will have to maintain a technological edge that we're not doing well enough ...at present!
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Union County, North Carolina
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GDP is running at 4%. The OP posted this, assuming that all Trump supporters shop at Walmart. Another ignorant post by an ignorant person.
And you shop at all the high-end places where nary an imported Chinese item can be found? Must be nice to be a 1%er!
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:35 PM
 
Location: PSL
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That won't happen! Even with the tariffs, many components will still be cheaper to manufacture overseas. Start up and labor costs present an economic wall (unlike Trump's wall!) that can't be readily overcome. Many manufacturing processes are unfeasible in the USA at this point. Are you willing to make widgets for $2.00 an hour or $5.00 a day? Can you spray paint a car faster than a robot at less expense to the company? I think not! The USA will have to maintain a technological edge that we're not doing well enough at present!
I keep hearing cheaper via foreign.
Never mind the rest of your tripe.

Answer the question.

Why do you oppose and make excuses for billion dollar corporations to continue to farm things out and not perform here in the states?

What's the matter?
Afraid you can't push socialism onto upcoming generations?
Justify high taxes to go along with welfare?
NIMBY?

What is it? Really. Honestly. Why do you oppose doing more business here?
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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If fewer people are buying fewer china-made toys and articles of clothing, how can that be a bad thing? No kid needs one more object, and nobody needs more clothes! (With the exception of growing kids.)
Or someone with a new job, or the construction worker whose clothes wear out quickly, family portraits....

Ah, tell them to suck it.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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Here is a thought for the Liberals: WHAT IF Trumps tariffs actually made people second guess buying more stuff they don't need which would actually mean that less junk would be thrown into landfills as people either took better care of what they had or buy a better quality piece in the first place that doesn't break as easily and that would be better for the environment.

Imagine that.

Well, considering trump is doing this to move manufacturing jobs back to the US...... I guess everyone buying less would crash those US businesses and cause the workers to be unemployed.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: PSL
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LOL don't ever mutter the words "For the greater good" when you oppose businesses reinvesting money and manufacturing/production here.

I'm a small business owner. I don't answer to investors. Customers and employees only, in a way they are an "investor" I guess...

How is it I can take advantage of Trump's tax cuts and some roll backs that benefitted me and be able to pay employees a sustainable wage? Yet. Walmart. GM. Ford. Can't or won't.

If you're implying it will cost more due to building new facilities, initially. It's a 1 time up front cost for the facility.

If you're implying labor costs.
Perhaps we should roll back taxes or other cost burdens conditionally so long as the company is providing full time employment, 100% American work force, hire and educate/train, and provide a self sustaining wage.

I can do it. They can too. So why oppose it? You make excuses for them to conduct business as usual out of complacency. Oh well. We have been doing it that way for years. We can't do it any other way... rriiiggghhtttt..... okie dokie...

Yeah. If they said the same thing in the 80s about switching from carburetors to fuel injection, they wouldn't be selling cars now would they? Nope. Not at all.

Hypocrisy.
Concerned for the greater good.
Doesn't want domestic production to return.
Wants to outsource everything because it's "cheaper"
Wants cost burdens to be absorbed by the company thus driving costs higher when they can no longer retain profit margin.

It's okay to force a companies hand when it's involving the carbon emissions.
Not okay when it's forcing a company to return to their roots and reinvest.


Only conclusion I can come up with.
NIMBY
Socialists-welfare for all, free all the things.
A ton of college professors who would be out of a job because a college degree wouldn't be mandatory for employment when the employer is absorbing the cost and paying the employee to learn and be productive and proficient in the area they have an interest in.
Worshippers of daddy .gov- business bad .gov good.

So which is it?
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Union County, North Carolina
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I keep hearing cheaper via foreign.
Never mind the rest of your tripe.

Answer the question.

Why do you oppose and make excuses for billion dollar corporations to continue to farm things out and not perform here in the states?

What's the matter?
Afraid you can't push socialism onto upcoming generations?
Justify high taxes to go along with welfare?
NIMBY?

What is it? Really. Honestly. Why do you oppose doing more business here?
I don't make excuses for billion dollar corporations to farm things out! You're putting words in my mouth. Why doesn't President Cheeto have his clothing line "Made in America"? Ask him!

As for farming things out, why does BMW make their SUV's in South Carolina? They sell them in China too, so it can't be solely to save on shipping costs. Could it be to save on labor costs using cheaper non-union South Carolina workers that are paid less, with less benefits than their German counterparts? Maybe they want that "cheap American labor" so their profit margin is higher! Kinda like "the Donald" and recently, Ivanka!

Yeah, "greed is good" ...unless you're the one having to pay for it!

BTW, how much do your workers make per hour? Care to share?
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