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Old 09-20-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Mikala43 View Post
Yes, if someone is Muslim then they would use the Koran.

How would you feel if you were Christian and someone made you swear on a Koran?

See how that works?
Throughout history and to this day, they do make you swear on the Koran when they take over your country. Wonder why Islamic countries are becoming more Islamic and less every other religian. Its not because they are becoming more Liberal, thats for sure.

 
Old 09-20-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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Throughout history and to this day, they do make you swear on the Koran when they take over isour country. Wonder why Islamic countries are becoming more Islamic and less every other religian. Its not because they are becoming more Liberal, thats for sure.

Our country has freedom of religion. That doesn't just apply to your religion.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Obama, a guy that went around to the middle east appolgizing for the US and middle eastern policies and its treatment of Muslims. Then he proceeds to use a Billion dollars in cruise missiles killing many innocent Muslims, destroys Muslim Libya outright, tries to do the same in Syria, then tries again in Yemen. Is that the guy you talkin about? That guy has tons of credibility to you and the Nobel Peace prize commitee
You just proved my point.

You didn’t convert to Obama’s way of thinking. It didn’t matter to you which book he swore the oath on, did it? Why do you think that if a Muslim took the presidential oath and then broke that oath to try to turn the US into a theocracy that Americans would blindly follow, and we’d become like Pakistan?
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: USA
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Our country has freedom of religion. That doesn't just apply to your religion.
Athiest here! I just know we wouldn't have the country we have if we were founded by Islamist. We know what they create. Simple as that!
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: The 719
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OP seems to have the charmingly idiotic idea the Judeo-Christian Bible is the official book of US government.

Or that oaths are only valid when sworn on that book.

But no idea what an oath actually is.

Of course, given the behavior of so many good Christian public servants who have sworn their oaths on the Bible, I can see the source of the confusion...
You've got the ideology that it doesn't.

Go study the Declaration of Independence and the United States of American Constitution some time.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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The First Amendment only applies to Christianity and Judaism because those were the only religions in America at the founding, just like the First Amendment only applies to printing presses, not electronic communication because they didn't have electronics at the founding. Also, the Second Amendment only applies to 18th-century arms like muskets. (this is sarcasm if you couldn't tell)

In any case it's not true that the Founders did not conceive of Islam being practiced in the US. Jefferson himself made clear that freedom of religion applied to Islam, Hinduism and all other religions.

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The bill for establishing religious freedom, the principles of which had, to a certain degree, been enacted before, I had drawn in all the latitude of reason & right. it still met with opposition; but, with some mutilations in the preamble, it was finally past; and a singular proposition proved that it’s protection of opinion was meant to be universal. where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the words ‘Jesus Christ’ so that it should read ‘a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion’ the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of it’s protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination.
Extract from Thomas Jefferson

(Mahometan means Muslim)
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Quran is not compatible with the US Constitution. They think the Quran is above everything.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Originally Posted by stateofnature View Post
The First Amendment only applies to Christianity and Judaism because those were the only religions in America at the founding, just like the First Amendment only applies to printing presses, not electronic communication because they didn't have electronics at the founding. Also, the Second Amendment only applies to 18th-century arms like muskets. (this is sarcasm if you couldn't tell)

In any case it's not true that the Founders did not conceive of Islam being practiced in the US. Jefferson himself made clear that freedom of religion applied to Islam, Hinduism and all other religions.



Extract from Thomas Jefferson

(Mahometan means Muslim)
Fun fact - when Keith Ellison took his oath of office, he used Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Koran.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:22 PM
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Location: Trumpville
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The Quran is not compatible with the US Constitution. They think the Quran is above everything.
And you people don't think the same about the Bible? You want to restrict my right to marry who I love for no other reason than "the Bible says so."
 
Old 09-20-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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An abomination that a foreigner is allowed to hold public office. That should NEVER be allowed. They shouldn't be allowed to have any government job of any kind, paid, unpaid volunteer, nothing.

Especially not a Somali....someone from one of the worst places on the planet, a culture that has never produced anything, has never come up with a stable form of government. Why in the world do we accept these people into our homes? Its insanity.
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