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Old 09-20-2018, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Except the greed isnít all hidden, and neither is the promiscuity - and, to all our sorrow, the presidentís opinion of his own penis, which he announced unprompted on national TV.
Well--his opinion has been challenged by someone who has actually seen it up close, and described it in her book.

 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:15 PM
 
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I was going to refute this, but you know what? It’s too dumb.
For the first time in human history we have the entire sum of human history available in our hands, and yet we're dumber than any generation before us, and only use these phones to post pictures of our food and faux outrage

But, yea, I'm totally off base
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:16 PM
 
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Who else is noticing?
Anything goes. Doesn't care about anything but "ME" generation.
A culture of promiscuity. A culture of hidden greed. A culture of double standards. A culture of entitlement.
Degenerates running the show, where it matters most in young lives, doesn't help.

I couldn't agree more. Sure we had the start of some of those things back in the 60's and 70's but it's greatly accelerated these days. It's the new so-called progressive movement.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Conservatives don't change their values, so if the morals (values) of society are changing, which side is it on?
I would say that conservatives REALLY changed their values by backing Donald Trump, the thrice married, porn star screwing serial adulterer. The man known for being a con man long before he became potus. His history was out in the open, yet the party of family values went for it.

Morally and ethically bankrupt conservatism and the evangelical right posterboy.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Conservatives don't change their values, so if the morals (values) of society are changing, which side is it on?
You think social change has a side?

And frankly, I think itís a GOOD thing that even many conservatives no longer believe that god wants black Americans to be second-class citizens or that rape is an appropriate response to short shorts.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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Liberals have no values, but it wasn't until the invention of smart phones a decade ago that their cancer started to metastisize at an alarming rate

Yikes where to begin? Be careful your paint brush is so broad that you are going to get hurt while painting. Or, do you realize when you point a finger 3 are pointing back at yourself? Or, by this point in the year 2018 we have all learned the definition of psychological deflection.


Nice try. No cigar. This is so transparent. You might try being a part of a solution than a part of any problem, bless your heart.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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Some of that is true, although I think promiscuity is a fine thing so long as contraception is involved.

Mostly, we have jettisoned the notion of Personal Responsibility. With common sense is replaced by the race card, the blame game, victimology, and a general sense of madness.

I fully agree with your last paragraph except for the "we" part. It's only the progressive faction in our country that are guilty of those things.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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I would say that conservatives REALLY changed their values by backing Donald Trump, the thrice married, porn star screwing serial adulterer. The man known for being a con man long before he became potus. His history was out in the open, yet the party of family values went for it.

Morally and ethically bankrupt conservatism and the evangelical right posterboy.
No, actually I would agree with JCHouseHunter here. Hypocrisy has long been a Conservative value. They tried to hide it under the "party of family values" nonsense and the pretend piety of Evangelicals, but in truth, this is who they have always been underneath.

The religious right embracing the man who is openly and apologetically all of the things you list confirms it. Trump just shone a light on them and they have no place to hide and pretend otherwise now.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Who else is noticing?
Anything goes. Doesn't care about anything but "ME" generation.
A culture of promiscuity. A culture of hidden greed. A culture of double standards. A culture of entitlement.
Degenerates running the show, where it matters most in young lives, doesn't help.

I think you're confusing Americans with the ME! ME! ME! POTUS.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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No, actually I would agree with JCHouseHunter here. Hypocrisy has long been a Conservative value. They tried to hide it under the "party of family values" nonsense and the pretend piety of Evangelicals, but in truth, this is who they have always been underneath.

The religious right embracing the man who is openly and apologetically all of the things you list confirms it. Trump just shone a light on them and they have no place to hide and pretend otherwise now.
Conservatives believe in smaller government especially at the federal level.

You vote for the big government freaks who are known failures. The current President is for staying involved in never ending wars in the Middle East and increased spending. Just like the last president. Neither one has conservatives values on those 2 most important issues.

Conservatives aren't the hypocrits here.

btw Anyone who thinks government is moral hasn't been paying attention.
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