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Old 09-20-2018, 09:18 PM
 
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How much of the homeless problem is being caused by gentrification?




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Old 09-20-2018, 09:20 PM
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:30 PM
 
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That depends on how many homeless lost their last residence due to gentrification. I doubt very much that would be the case. Gentrification is in most communities, a process of new construction and investment, or the organic turnover of properties upon the death and subsequent change of ownership and renovation of the property, and not the removal of below-market rate rental housing.

That being said, the transitional homeless often have just ran out of money. Doesn't really have much to do with gentrification because the causative issue is all on the "supply side" - ie, their supply of money.
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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Just out of curiosity, what do you think the impact on homelessness in West Oakland/Emeryville has been with all the subsidized low-income housing built along the BART and 880 corridor?

Its gentrification, but the people who live there would either be homeless, or not still be in the area without the subsidy.

So what does that do to the question?
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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This UC Berkley video is very misleading since it doesn't address some of the many issues that impact depressed communities like;

A) decades of failures of a corrupt local government
B) impact caused by the State's liberal policies
C) direct impact caused by illegal immigration
D) population addicted to illegal drugs and involvement in other criminal activities

Let's be honest, UC Berkley is known for its one-sided views and biasis. With that said, it's hard to take anything serious from that university since they lack credibility to be presenter of honest and factual information.
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:40 PM
 
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Very little, if any. The reason CA has such high homeless rates is mostly related to weather and genral acceptance of it. There probably is a degree of "couch surfing," and ocasional car sleeping that is exacerbated by the ridiculously high rents but most of those people will either find a place eventually or leave. Gentrification tends to just push people farther and farther out. It's awful, ugly, pushes out the middle classes and generally sucks the character out of a place. The spread of sanitized ideas of what a neighborhood should look like have ruined CA cities but claiming it's the reason for so many homeless is just not true.
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:50 PM
 
Location: la la land
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Very little, if any. The reason CA has such high homeless rates is mostly related to weather and genral acceptance of it. There probably is a degree of "couch surfing," and ocasional car sleeping that is exacerbated by the ridiculously high rents but most of those people will either find a place eventually or leave. Gentrification tends to just push people farther and farther out.
Actually more than 70% of the homeless last residential address was in the place they are currently homeless. Of course gentrification exacerbates homelessness. For decades low income single people resided in SRO's in big cities like San Francisco and LA, most of those have been turned into luxury studio apartments renting for 3k a month or more. Even in Sacramento where I live, rent has nearly doubled in the past 5 years, apartments that rented for $600 a month now rent for $1200. Section 8 vouchers are rarely accepted here because there is so much demand for rentals that landlords won't accept vouchers. You don't have to drive very far to see a family sleeping in their car or in an RV around here.

Very few homeless move to California for the weather, most don't have the means to move more than a few blocks.
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:54 PM
 
Location: la la land
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A) decades of failures of a corrupt local government
B) impact caused by the State's liberal policies
C) direct impact caused by illegal immigration
D) population addicted to illegal drugs and involvement in other criminal activities
None of that makes any sense. There are homeless all over the US, in red states and blue states, there are no "state liberal policies" that create or encourage homelessness and if there are homeless illegals they keep it a secret, you rarely see them in the areas where homeless people hang out. And the illegal drug problem in California is nothing compared to other states, here's the "top twenty" states with the biggest drug problem.

1. District of Columbia
2. Missouri
3. New Hampshire
4. Michigan
5. West Virginia
6. New Mexico
7. Indiana
8. Rhode Island
9. Kentucky
10. Pennsylvania
11. Massachusetts
12. Colorado
13. Wyoming
14. Tennessee
15. Oregon
16. Delaware
17. Alaska
18. Maine
19. Arkansas
20. Maryland
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:58 PM
 
Location: SGV
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If you are long-term homeless you are either mentally ill, a hardcore drug user, or are doing so by choice. Some mix and match these 3 tenets.

Those are the only causes of long-term homelessness.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:44 AM
 
Location: la la land
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If you are long-term homeless you are either mentally ill, a hardcore drug user, or are doing so by choice. Some mix and match these 3 tenets.

Those are the only causes of long-term homelessness.
That's not true. There are disabled and elderly people who can't work and get very little money, SSI is less than $800 a month. Some social security recipients get less than that every month, especially very old people who have been drawing benefits for a long time. Only about 1/4 of the poor receive any kind of housing subsidy. The people I'm talking about are usually less 'visible' than the drug addicted or mentally ill homeless, many of them sleep in cars but they are homeless.
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