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Old 09-21-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Bellevue WA
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Opiates are not marijuana. There is a legitimate argument for tough laws against them given their addictive nature and the physical toll they take on the body and potential to overdose
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Hey, stop playing overlord. Some of us are tryng to get opiates for our pain, unsuccessfully, I might add, thanks to finger wagglers such as yourself. Opiates allow people to walk, to clean house, to go to the gym, to go dancing, things you can't do once you've acquired certain conditions like DDD, which is arthritis all over your body. You don't know pain until this thing gets you.
Maybe if people toned their **** down in one area, it would overlap into another. In the grand scheme of life, nobody on this social media site, me included, runs a damn thing but their mouth.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Opiates are not marijuana. There is a legitimate argument for tough laws against them given their addictive nature and the physical toll they take on the body and potential to overdose
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Hey, stop playing overlord. Some of us are tryng to get opiates for our pain, unsuccessfully, I might add, thanks to finger wagglers such as yourself. Opiates allow people to walk, to clean house, to go to the gym, to go dancing, things you can't do once you've acquired certain conditions like DDD, which is arthritis all over your body. You don't know pain until this thing gets you.
Maybe if people toned their **** down in one area, it would overlap into another. In the grand scheme of life, nobody on this social media site, me included, runs a damn thing but their mouth.
I don't believe anyone has suggested banning opiates from being prescribed for legit pain needs. There is no question that there has been abuse and overuse of them however. More discretion is needed.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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Why not just start obeying the law??
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:15 PM
 
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Let a proper libertarian run on a platform that includes abolishing all drug related and other victimless crimes, which right off the bat reduces the entire US prison population by ~1/3, and you'll see how much the Democrats agree with Republicans and how fast both will rush to a podium to shriek at the heretic suggesting we stop with laws that are meant for nothing more than to feed undeserving people to the prison-political complex.

The Democrats are no more interested in reforming laws and stopping the dumbass war on drugs than the Republicans are, because both gain something with their base while those laws are in effect. The Democrats gain a boogeyman they can use to scare black people into voting for them, and the Republicans scare their base by claiming those ridiculous laws are all that stand between the voters' virgin daughters and the scourge of drug dealing rapists or something.

And oh yeah, both have Senators/Reps who use the prison/jail system as job creation programs in their states/districts. Fewer prisoners means fewer prisons, which means less jobs in a pretty cushy government industry.

Don't be so naive.
I rarely agree with you, but I do agree with this post.

In addition to what each party gains by scaring people, lots and lots of money is made from private parties in the war on drugs and the prison system--private prisons, food suppliers, etc.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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and the per capita demographic sways one way.
Yet, they keep electing the Democrats that make the deep blue metropolitan laws and regulations that target black Americans. Jim Crow 2018



#Walkaway

Have actual facts to support your statements or just another baseless 'those damn Dems' rant?
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:15 PM
 
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We should outsource our prisons to Mexico. Win-win for both countries.
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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and the per capita demographic sways one way.
Yet, they keep electing the Democrats that make the deep blue metropolitan laws and regulations that target black Americans. Jim Crow 2018
Your post makes no sense. Could you possibly enlarge on that?

It's Republicans who are pro-jail, and Republicans who favor for-profit jail. It's Democrats who believe laws should be less discriminatory.

Are you aware that Trump himself is helping profiteering prisons?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-priva...ed-memo-795681
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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We should outsource our prisons to Mexico. Win-win for both countries.
So in other words, when we send our people to Mexico, we shouldn't send them our best?
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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We should outsource our prisons to Mexico. Win-win for both countries.

I've always believed this. They could house a prisoner for a fraction of what we do in the US.
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Old 09-21-2018, 05:04 PM
 
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Why not just start obeying the law??
Then they just change the law, and make whatever people do illegal in order to arrest more people.

It is profitable. Jailing is a private business, the more people they have the more money they make.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQxtRcfBIXY
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