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Old 09-24-2018, 01:11 AM
 
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No.
Immigrants have always met a hard time when they arrived here. They always will. That's human nature.
True, there's always a buffer. First generation to set foot won't be perfectly assimilated, but their offspring will, and their grandchildren will definitely be more assimilated.
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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No.
Immigrants have always met a hard time when they arrived here. They always will. That's human nature.
Hard time? Bwahaha. Good one.
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African immigrants to the US are among the most educated groups in the United States. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is more than double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans.[26] According to the 2000 Census, the rate of college diploma acquisition is highest among Egyptian Americans at 59.7 percent, followed closely by Nigerian Americans at 58.6 percent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa...ia_and_science

Please explain the hard time immigrants are having if African immigrants are more educated than native-born Americans?
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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I addressed your strawman argument. Scroll up.
And I addressed your laziness and insistence on playing the victim.
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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True, there's always a buffer. First generation to set foot won't be perfectly assimilated, but their offspring will, and their grandchildren will definitely be more assimilated.

With the continued influx of illegal aliens from south of our border and the same with them for the highest quotas for legal immigration into our country and family reunifications assimilation will only be marginal and colonization will occur instead.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:23 AM
 
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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No one is saying English only under all circumstances. As for learning another language if an English speaking American desires to do so, so be it but it should never be a pre-requirement to get a job in this country for most jobs.

How is the more languages you know if you plan on residing in this country all your life and have a job not dealing with foreign nations or working in the tourist industry a big benefit?
Well, for example, if you are an attorney, there may be cases that require review of documents in foreign languages. If you are multilingual, then you may receive a pay increase depending on your employer or you can argue for a higher salary at the outset. A number of attorneys work with document review agencies and those agencies pay more for foreign language review. If you are a sole practitioner, that may allow you to handle cases other attorneys cannot.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I do not mean this to be racist. Hispanics are a great culture of hardworking people. I do not have an issue with their immigration to the US. They have brought new diversity and skills to the US.


My pet peeve is speaking English. English is the language of North America.


It has gotten to the point that virtually every set of instructions that come with anything you buy are in English and Spanish. Every time you call a telephone number you have a choice to press something for English or Spanish. I swear, I items for sale in Walmart and the box does not have one word of English on it, its all in Spanish.


I understand accommodation. However, I do believe immigrants to the US should learn English but the level of accommodation has gotten to the point that Hispanics do not have to learn English. Virtually everything is in Spanish. Sometimes to the point English speaking people are having to learn Spanish.


The whole Hispanic speaking accommodation is now a steam roller because businesses want to sell products so they target their audience.


It appears we are going to become a bi-lingual country.
Are you under the assumption that there are no native-born Americans of Hispanic heritage in this country?

Are you not aware of the early history of California, Florida, Texas, New Mexico...?

Hint: those states weren't originally settled by English speakers.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Not everyone learns new languages easily, and yet people all across Europe have managed to learn English as a second language. Previous generations of immigrants have managed to learn English. It's only in the latter part of my life that immigrants are not learning English.

More than 10% of children entering schools in eight states do not speak English. The eight states include California where 21% of children entering schools do not know how to speak English, and Texas and Nevada where the number is 17%.

Do I know them, is your question? No, I don't know them. Is there a reason you ask?
Did you know that there were German language-only schools in this country up until the second world war?
The percentage of kids entering school speaking a language other then English is no different now than it ever was.

Not learning English in this country is not new.

In many parts of this country, there are church services in Korean, in Mandarin, in Spanish...

Spanish was the first European language spoken in the western part of the country, dating back to the founding of Santa Fe, NM in 1607. Native American tribes in what is now New Mexico learned Spanish. Many of their descendants have Spanish last names today.

Up until a few years ago, it was common to see signage in Alamogordo, NM in English, Spanish and German due to the presence of German airmen at Holloman AFB.
Visit Fredericksburg, TX for current examples.

This country has always been multi-lingual.
Always.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Well the free market forces people to learn English, we don't need to legally enforce it.

If you come to the United States and never learn English, you'll have very limited job opportunities and prospects. People who don't speak English are confined to their small ethnic communities and can't do much of anything. Most immigrants don't want to live that life.
And many do want to live that life.

Witness Palisades Park, NJ.
It took maybe a year for store signs to go from English to predominantly Korean, and this was in the past twenty years or so.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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And many do want to live that life.

Witness Palisades Park, NJ.
It took maybe a year for store signs to go from English to predominantly Korean, and this was in the past twenty years or so.
Or Cuenca, Ecuador, or any of the other American retirement communities in South America or overseas. They are suffering from a rash of signs in English! Only possible interpretation: They're out to undermine the predominant culture.
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