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Old 09-24-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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I grew up in NYC, went to college in Boston at a university with a large international student population, have lived in Europe, and currently reside in a very diverse city. Yes, I've heard how "some foreigners" speak.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Have you heard the way some foreigners speak, the cadence, dialect and volume? it's worse than a listening to a barking dog. I could probably tolerate or even respect if not admire it if I were in say Mexico. But the fact it just shows up everywhere uninvited and likely unauthorized in my neighborhood changes everything.
That would only apply if you live in a gated community, or something similar. Or are you referring to something else?
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Personally, I don't understand the resistance in learning English. My grandparents were so proud to be here, so proud to be Americans they couldn't wait to learn to speak, read, and write the language of their new home. The only time they spoke Italian at home was when they didn't want us (their grandchildren) to understand what they were talking about, which was rare.
It’s a different era. My grandparents were Polish, and they and many other Polish learned English and assimilated. However, those were different times.

I honestly don’t have a problem as long as it is truly bilingual. Like the incident in Florida where the English speaking customer could not order off of a menu in English, is pretty ridiculous, because the speaker claimed to not understand English (although apparently she really did). Incidents like that are ridiculous. It should be fair both ways.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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I used to lived in the North End of Boston (it's Little Italy) and had many, many elderly neighbors who only spoke Italian, not English.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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I still laugh at the idea that hearing a language other than English is "annoying" and anything other than English sounds like "babbling". Everyday life must be very hard for some people.....
I still laugh at the idea that people of color need the white mans help to advance in society. The anxiety some white folks must have in this country until every Hispanic or Black has a mansion, BMW, and 4 kids in private school must be very hard to deal with. All the while Asian Americans are currently enjoying the highest standards of living and suing Harvard as TOO MANY qualified Asians are being turned down.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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That's interesting. Where does that median IQ come from? Do you have a source for that?
From various studies. Best estimate yet of Hispanic-American IQ, by Steve Sailer - The Unz Review
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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If you are making unpleasant and incoherent racket and clamor in public, and you probably shouldn't even be here to begin with, then it does involve me. What I have to see or hear in my country in my neighborhood is my concern.
It's none of your business what language people speak out in public. Maybe they're talking about how unpleasant you are.

You don't like your neighborhood? Move. They're not going anywhere and if they're here legally, they don't have to.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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That would only apply if you live in a gated community, or something similar. Or are you referring to something else?
If you are not a citizen then you have to have a valid visa to be in America.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Have you heard the way some foreigners speak, the cadence, dialect and volume? it's worse than a listening to a barking dog. I could probably tolerate or even respect if not admire it if I were in say Mexico. But the fact it just shows up everywhere uninvited and likely unauthorized in my neighborhood changes everything.
Unauthorized????!!!! You live in a VERY strange neighborhood. I’ve lived in a lot of places, and never once had to apply for a license from the language police.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It’s a different era. My grandparents were Polish, and they and many other Polish learned English and assimilated. However, those were different times.

I honestly don’t have a problem as long as it is truly bilingual. Like the incident in Florida where the English speaking customer could not order off of a menu in English, is pretty ridiculous, because the speaker claimed to not understand English (although apparently she really did). Incidents like that are ridiculous. It should be fair both ways.
It's not a question of fairness. You're talking about a woman who lied because she decided she didn't want to serve the customer and she was fired for it.

To me, it's stupid to move to a country and then not learn the language. Not every cop or firefighter or EMT worker is going to speak Spanish. It puts people at a great disadvantage in those encounters alone.
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