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Old 09-21-2018, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Old 09-21-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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And, until recently, they made nothing themselves! Bezos made a fortune just being a middleman for lazy people.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:00 PM
 
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Pretty much the same thing Wal-Mart did but in the online sphere.

I would point at creation of the "Wal-Mart economy" as a necessary prerequisite for the *Amazon success."
Once the middle class went down with exported and outsourced jobs, the retailers started going down as well one after another. Everyone was trying to squeeze as much profit as possible from as cheap(er) made products as possible ( thanks to the whole Wal-Mart mindset.) And that means that the quality of merchandise dropped across the line in retail stores as well.
So what are the retail stores anyway? A middle man, that makes your "shopping experience" pleasant, that invites you to the lively shopping malls to hang around, to have lunch, to enjoy looking at things, to socialize with friends and strangers.
All this is gone, it's in the past for the most part. The "middle man" is more and more often cut out of the deals for a number of reasons; people are not willing to shell extra money for an "old friend", since everything went up in price so much, the younger generation has its social life on social media now - namely Facebook, so straight to Amazon the business goes.
So yes, Wal-Mart in essence set up a stage for the Amazon.
Amazon is nothing but a next logical step in process of "centralizing" the flow of money and channeling them in fewer and fewer hands.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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Those defending Amazon are deluded in the believe that people like Bezos, Gates, Musk are geniuses that are working for the progress of humanity. In reality they are nothing but con-artists, manipulators of markets and frauds.

Amazon have been under attack and their abuse of workers' rights and anti-competition practices are well known. The illusion of the greatness of Bill Gates is brought to reality just by saying that he started Microsoft by buying MS-DOS, and then stealing the idea of windows from Apple. Simple as that.
The latest scam is by Elon Musk, funded with government money to the amount of $4.9 billions, to sell overpriced cars that crash and get on fire. Under the illusion that electric cars are the best thing since slice bread, and even more fantastic ideas of moon travel.

People proudly talk about all of this as the greatness of capitalism. It is neither capitalism nor is it great.

IT'S ALL LIES.

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Old 09-21-2018, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Adam Smith defined the free markets as individual producers forming supply to meet the demands of a society at a profit.

That is not how Amazon came to monopolize the book market or even online retail, they did it through excess financial backing that let them to ignore the rules of supply demand, pricing, and what not in order to gain control of the supply chain and individual market killing competition.


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Wake up.

Nope, you and I did it. We got lazy, and cheap. Way too easy to sit at your computer or phone, look up an item, and then order it than to get in your car, drive to some local store, and pay more for the same item. Just this week I needed some special support socks after some recent surgery. I went to the local medical supply store, they had them for $40.99 A PAIR. Looked on Amazon, same product, 7 pairs for $23.99 ! I like to support local businesses, but I have a budget like everyone else.


Amazon simply saw the future better than everyone else. That is how marketing and sales go.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Nope, you and I did it. We got lazy, and cheap. Way too easy to sit at your computer or phone, look up an item, and then order it than to get in your car, drive to some local store, and pay more for the same item. Just this week I needed some special support socks after some recent surgery. I went to the local medical supply store, they had them for $40.99 A PAIR. Looked on Amazon, same product, 7 pairs for $23.99 ! I like to support local businesses, but I have a budget like everyone else.


Amazon simply saw the future better than everyone else. That is how marketing and sales go.
And none of that has to do with the free markets, that has to do with authoritarian control of the economy.

If you want a few power centers deciding which communities die and which succeed, what businesses can thrive, what businesses can't, then you are supporting dictatorial power.

Amazon didn't work hard to get here, and the fact that you can defend them as providing a great product means you like many others ignore the threat to freedom such an oligarchical system imposes.

You complain about Trump's tweets being a threat to democracy, well guess what, this is the actual threat to democracy.

Stop shopping off of Amazon and buy less if you need to. Stop feeding the consumer model.
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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Hang on -- isn't financial backing part of the free market.

So a free market is one to where everyone has the same financial backing access?

Exactly. Bezos thought outside the box and came up with the correct strategy to take market share and I don't see our country crumbling because Amazon is successful. I think Prime is great. I use it at least 2 to 3 times a week for supplies for my business. Gotta love the free shipping.
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:31 PM
 
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And, until recently, they made nothing themselves! Bezos made a fortune just being a middleman for lazy people.
I wouldn't consider myself lazy, but Amazon certainly helps me save gas, money, and time going to the store.
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:34 PM
 
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And none of that has to do with the free markets, that has to do with authoritarian control of the economy.

Amazon represents less than 1% of our countries GDP. At 1% they do in no way control the economy.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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Amazon represents less than 1% of our countries GDP. At 1% they do in no way control the economy.
Come on, you are going to ruin the doom and gloom that some idiots are trying to perpetrate so they can try and get their socialist dream to come true.
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