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Old 09-25-2018, 03:43 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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To the limited extent they may have did that in the past, they weren't acting as good Christians. I never say people who are Christians are perfect. I don't think what language is encouraged in a jurisdiction has to do with anything.

I don't think you thought that through at all. Language is an intrinsic part of a culture and forcing people to speak a different one is a direct assault on their culture.
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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Israelis don't see Palestinians as human beings.
No they do not and Trump, Ivanka and Kushner are giving Israel all the tools to exterminate them, including taking away funding from Palestinian hospitals.

I'm not anti Israel or anti Palestine, I have no dog in this at all. But we used to take a more measured approach and now we are not at all. While the US has been extremely pro-Israel for decades, Trump, Ivanka and Kushner have taken that to the absolute most extreme measure possible.

We tend to view Israel through the very American pro-Israel lens, but the rest of the world sees Israel differently:

"Israel is extremely unpopular worldwide. In one BBC poll of 22 countries, Israel was the fourth-most-disliked nation (behind only Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea)".

"...West Bank settlements are a key cause of Israel's poor global standing. Most of the world believes that Israel's continued control of the West Bank is an unlawful military occupation, and that settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention..."

Everything you need to know about Israel-Palestine
https://www.vox.com/cards/israel-pal.../world-opinion

The same Trump that complains endlessly about NATO countries not contributing enough, gives endless billions to Israel and never utters a world of complaint. We are no longer trying to appear objective, we are now 100% all Israel and it will probably come back to bite us.

Israel wants to goad us into a war with Iran and Trump is playing right into their hands.

Israel Nudges Trump Towards War With Iran
https://www.theamericanconservative....war-with-iran/

Donald Trump’s New World Order
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...ew-world-order

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It's not our job to support them.
It's not our job to support Israel either. What Netanyahu is doing serves Israel and getting the US into war with Iran helps Israel and costs them nothing.
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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I don't think you thought that through at all. Language is an intrinsic part of a culture and forcing people to speak a different one is a direct assault on their culture.
So why are your forcing Americans to communicate in foreign languages to foreigners? America was a British culture.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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Israel serves no strategic importance to the US.
You really have no clue at all.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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That the Israelis and Palestinians kill civilians indiscriminately is obvious. It’s what they’ve been doing for a long time.
This ^^

I don't think Americans should take sides here. Not our problem.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Then let's do that. No money to either side. Giving a blank check in the form of billions in military aid and protection to Israel while starving and defunding the Palestinian hospitals is cruel and sickening. It will come back on us.
I'd love to see no presence and no money for either side...or anyone else for that matter. Let them figure it out themselves.

This nonsense that Israel is always the innocent victim is tiresome.
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Old 09-25-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So why are your forcing Americans to communicate in foreign languages to foreigners? America was a British culture.

WHO is " forcing Americans to communicate in foreign languages to foreigners " ?
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Old 09-25-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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WHO is " forcing Americans to communicate in foreign languages to foreigners " ?
Democrats mostly. Who forced foreign language speaking Americans to speak English?
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:20 AM
 
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This ^^

I don't think Americans should take sides here. Not our problem.
And that’s been the problem...the United States taking sides in a conflict that we haven’t the faintest idea about.
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Old 09-26-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...fire-1.6492846


Yup, it keeps getting worse.

And please, don't feel the need to get defensive, just mourn the dead.

Right of the bat you nbias is revealed.


Title: Israel kills more civilians


Opening line of article, "
Palestinian Killed

"Nuff said!
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