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Old 09-23-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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So, you're stereotyping life back then? I never got beat by my parents when I was a kid. I might have gotten a little smack on the butt or made to stand in a corner for awhile but that was it. Where is your proof that it was normal to beat your kids and your wife back then?


Oh yeah, the family values are so much better now with single parenting, high divorce rates, drug abuse and immorality at an all time high.
Don’t you understand that someone who is in their 20’s is an expert on that era and clearly knows better than you what life was like back then.

 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I always wanted to be a Kennedy. Women, drugs, booze, politics, money.

A nice wholesome family of the 50's.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Was anyone out there sexually assaulted by Beaver?

Anyone....?
His name was Beaver Cleaver. No way that kind of play on words would be allowed today. That in itself could be construed as a nod to sexual assault.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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We're getting way off track here.

Let's remember what this thread is actually about.

The OP made a claim that either "strong family values in the 1950s" is a myth, OR that Leave it to Beaver is NOT a documentary.

So his postulate is that one of these assertions is true.

In fact, it is true that TV sitcoms are NOT documentaries.

But while that is true, it being true has nothing to do with the other postulate. Strong family values existed in the 1950s, especially relative to today, by virtue of the fact that more families were intact, there was a much smaller rate of OOW births, divorce etc and so on.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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It's considered child abuse today. The idea of intentionally hitting a defenceless child is rightfully considered barbaric and criminal.
Only to limp-wristed liberals it is. For regular people, they know that a slap on the rump is not child abuse.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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Myth ? Hmmm...just going on my family history. I remember my great grandparents celabrating over 70 years of marriage, raising a family on a single income. My grandparents on both sides, one had a 72 year wedding anniversary , the other 65 years, both raised families on single incomes, home owners , no degrees, no debt. And these were immigrants from Italy and Mexico. They weren't rich but when they passed they had houses that were paid for, savings accounts and stockpiles of cash hidden in their house. My aunts ,uncles and parents all did very well so the family values definitely were passed down.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:42 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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We're getting way off track here.

Let's remember what this thread is actually about.

The OP made a claim that either "strong family values in the 1950s" is a myth, OR that Leave it to Beaver is NOT a documentary.

So his postulate is that one of these assertions is true.

In fact, it is true that TV sitcoms are NOT documentaries.

But while that is true, it being true has nothing to do with the other postulate. Strong family values existed in the 1950s, especially relative to today, by virtue of the fact that more families were intact, there was a much smaller rate of OOW births, divorce etc and so on.
Your right but there were also many cases of rape, spousal abuse, alcoholism and over all dysfunctional families. People did not speak of such things but we all knew "that family" that your mom didn't want you going over to that house. In retrospect life was simpler and the family norm seemed less complicated but maybe all our judgements are tinted from the programs we watched...
 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by phantompilot View Post
We're getting way off track here.

Let's remember what this thread is actually about.

The OP made a claim that either "strong family values in the 1950s" is a myth, OR that Leave it to Beaver is NOT a documentary.

So his postulate is that one of these assertions is true.

In fact, it is true that TV sitcoms are NOT documentaries.

But while that is true, it being true has nothing to do with the other postulate. Strong family values existed in the 1950s, especially relative to today, by virtue of the fact that more families were intact, there was a much smaller rate of OOW births, divorce etc and so on.
As someone who grew up in the 50s, you are way off.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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I thought we came to realize that the ideal American lifestyle of the 50's was a myth back in the 70's when we started to talk about abuse -- physical, sexual, child.....and the stress, pressure men and women felt living the lie.

Some of you missed those Phil Donahue shows and Oprah shows -- lol.
 
Old 09-23-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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I am happy that I don't live in the 1950s. It would not have worked out for me as a Black man. Call it race baiting all you want. Show me where I'm telling a lie.
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