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Old 09-27-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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No, it was their money (plus interest and penalties) being returned to them. There is nothing to be upset about.
OK and that may be true. But then why was it done in the dead of night in the last hours of his presidency? After all he said that he was going to have the most transparent administration in history.

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Old 09-27-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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OK and that may be true. But then why was it done in the dead of night in the last hours of his presidency? After all he said that he was going to have the most transparent administration in history.
Well, believe it or not, it is "dead of night" somewhere in the world all the time.
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Well, believe it or not, it is "dead of night" somewhere in the world all the time.
I was just thinking the same thing. Any look at a world map of time zones indicates that anything done "in the dead of night" in Washington is going to be during the day in Iran.
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:00 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Again, this illustrates some people should not be allowed to vote.


“Travel to the U.S.”? Only foreigners are conducting businesses and vacationing?
There was no noticeable increase in domestic travel spending since Trump became president.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...us-since-2000/

But since Trump became president there has been "a 3.3 percent drop in travel spending and a 4 percent decline in inbound travel."
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/tra...ng-4-6-n840326[/quote]
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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There was no noticeable increase in domestic travel spending since Trump became president.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...us-since-2000/

But since Trump became president there has been "a 3.3 percent drop in travel spending and a 4 percent decline in inbound travel."
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/tra...ng-4-6-n840326
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From your own article:

"Domestic travel spending - additional information

Within the next few years, residents of the United States are expected to spend more money on domestic travel. From around 480 billion U.S. dollars in 2002, domestic travel spending is forecasted to be more than double that by 2022."
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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From your own article:

"Domestic travel spending - additional information

Within the next few years, residents of the United States are expected to spend more money on domestic travel. From around 480 billion U.S. dollars in 2002, domestic travel spending is forecasted to be more than double that by 2022."
That's a forecast, not actual numbers. Forecasts are sometimes wrong.
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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LOL, the last thing on Obama's mind was the economy. Of greater concern to him were re-distribution health care programs, running up debt, and a world apology tour. So you're right, I didn't thank Obama for anything other than killing Bin Laden where he gets a big thank you.



So running up debt is bad under Obama, but exploding the deficit to give rich people a big beautiful tax break under Trump is what? Good? Got it. (The CBO analysis shows the deficit will be 1 trillion dollars in 2020) MAGA.
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/order...--finance.html


Gee - maybe this Trump fellow is doing a better job than any of our community organizers, glass ceiling shattering women, or any of the other establishment creeps that we have been voting back into office for the past 3 decades.
The economy expanded at a 4.2 percent annual rate in the second quarter, according to a separate report released Thursday. That was the fastest pace in four years, lifted by a strong increase in consumer spending and healthy business investment in new buildings and software.

4 years ago -- isn't that when all the Obama critics were saying our economy was tanking.

LOL.....
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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OK and that may be true. But then why was it done in the dead of night in the last hours of his presidency? After all he said that he was going to have the most transparent administration in history.


It wasn't done in the last hours of his Presidency (at least not the first 400 million being returned). Not that it would be a problem if it was. Lots of things are done at ends of administrations (such as pardons), especially when changing parties when there are concerns with drastic changes in policies coming down the pike.


Lots of politicians sat lots of things. Look at all the stuff Trump is making up every day and lied about on the campaign. I'm not a big Obama fan, he was just another big business moderate in the end, but there was no scandal with this. Its about as much broo haha as the BS about the Uranium One deal.
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Old 09-27-2018, 10:57 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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From your own article:

"Domestic travel spending - additional information

Within the next few years, residents of the United States are expected to spend more money on domestic travel. From around 480 billion U.S. dollars in 2002, domestic travel spending is forecasted to be more than double that by 2022."
There was no noticeable increase in domestic travel spending since Trump became president (see graph/chart.)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...us-since-2000/


And "Vacation travel spending will be flat this year, with the number of leisure trips expected to decline in 2018, a trend that could continue through much of 2019, as well."

"According to MMGY Global, a leading travel research and marketing company, on average travelers intend to spend $4,278 during the next 12 months, compared with the $4,281 spent in the previous 12 months. In 2016, respondents to the survey predicted spending $4,723."

2016 vacation spending- $4,723
2018 vacation spending- $4,278

https://www.travelmarketreport.com/a...May-Be-Slowing


And because of Donald Trump international travel to America is greatly decreasing.

"Each time President Trump issues a new version of his travel ban, the U.S. travel industry and the economy takes a hit."

"By causing confusion and fear among travelers, Trump’s bans have also translated into a loss of billions of dollars for the U.S. economy."
https://www.travelpulse.com/news/imp...n-tourism.html


"Travel to the U.S. has been declining since Donald Trump took office, leading to a cost of $4.6 billion in spending and 40,000 jobs, according to NBC News."
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...to-report.html


"Trump’s travel order brought with it a swift decline in the number of worldwide tourists and travelers looking to visit the United States. Online booking websites reported that flight searches from international points of origin to the United States were down anywhere from 6 percent to 17 percent since Trump signed the executive order on Jan. 27."
https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyl...FsL/story.html


And if you look at tourism from a country like Germany Trumps travel ban has even more disastrous effects. 46% of Germans who had interest in traveling to America no longer want to do so because of Trumps travel ban.
Nearly half of Germans open to US travel deterred by Trump: report | TheHill


Donald Trump is not increasing vacation/travel spending. Instead Trump is causing the loss of billions of dollars from international travelers, and Trump is eliminating 10,000's of American tourism jobs.
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