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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 14 6.25%
58-60 7 3.13%
55-57 13 5.80%
50-54 144 64.29%
49 or less 46 20.54%
Voters: 224. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-03-2018, 10:15 PM
 
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This would only fly in Trumps America where dignity and intelligent behavior is non existent.


funny....this is from the party of Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton lecturing us about dignity and intelligent behavior.

 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:17 PM
 
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Well, now we know how God and His Son feel on the subject:
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-nomination-to

"The nation’s largest coalition of Christian churches on Wednesday called for the withdrawal of Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination for the Supreme Court."

Turns out the Lords doesn't like inflexible partisan hacks:
"“Judge Kavanaugh exhibited extreme partisan bias and disrespect towards certain members of the committee and thereby demonstrated that he possesses neither the temperament nor the character essential for a member of the highest court in our nation,”

Religious folks are gonna have to decide if they prefer the thinking of a porn star adulterer and puzzy grabber - to a group of respected church leaders. Hmmm....which is it?
From what I have seen the porn star aldulterer...

I don't think any of those GOP Senators gives a rat's ass what Jesus would do---which wouldn't be to vote for Kavanaugh or even to run for public office----but they sure do care what Trump will do...and Trump's base...
And Trump's base doesn't care what those law professors think or what the leaders of churches think.....
They don't care what reasonable people think...
They want to hate--on women, on minorities, on needy people (even when they ARE needy), on anyone who threatens what they think is "right"...and Trump tapped into that hate in his base and he is letting it air out...
And they like that...so they are going to keep on letting him behave abominable and be an ass with statements like last night's rally in MS...

What reasonable man would have done and said anything like Trump did or incited that crowd to cheer at???
But he and the crowd were in a feeding frenzy last night...
Those scenes were as bad as anything Hitler started in Germany to get his base riled up about the Jews and the foreigners and banks who were ruining Germany for Germans (and remember Hitler wasn't a German by birth so he started out a foreigner)....

I just don't see much hope for this country--someone like Jeff Flake that pulled that sleight of hand and duped Chris Coons into thinking he and the Democrats and Americans in general were going to get a REAL investigation into the truth of Brett Kavanaugh and/or Christine Ford are only going to get what McConnell and McGahn have doctored with with maybe the help of Kavanaugh's Yalies--Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein (I hate to consider that--but the proof is in the pudding....or is that Harvard....)

The GOP doesn't give a fig (And there is hidden meaning in that comment just like in Kavanaugh's yearbook) if putting Kavanaugh on the Court is a travesty...because they want the power...for ever and ever...
Put Kavanaugh on that court and you might not see another election...after the mid-term...
That is what I am thinking....
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:22 PM
 
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White House Finds No Corroboration of Sexual Misconduct Allegations Against Kavanaugh in FBI Report
https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-h...ort-1538625927
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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White House Finds No Corroboration of Sexual Misconduct Allegations Against Kavanaugh in FBI Report
https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-h...ort-1538625927
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:26 PM
 
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Why would Feindstein want to keep the fbi report from public?
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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White House Finds No Corroboration of Sexual Misconduct Allegations Against Kavanaugh in FBI Report
https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-h...ort-1538625927
Well of course since the FBI’s investigation was limited. And who limited them.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:29 PM
 
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Uh huh. A public servant elected by the public and takes a paycheck from the pool of all American taxpayers dollars ...just told the public to eff off.
Vote him out.
Politicians don't view themselevs as public servants. They are mostly a bunch of wealthy elite who focus on promoting the interests of other wealthy elite who donate large sums and form PACS that provide them with free luxury services. The masses are too ignorant to know enough to think for themselves and demand they do what's best for the people. That's largely because so many Americans are happy to mindlessly follow. I'll never understand why people waste the power and freedom our founding fathers gave us.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:29 PM
 
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Let's Recap for a minute - tonight Leader McConnell called for a Cloture Vote.
The FBI Report is complete and distributed to the Senate Members.
The process begins tomorrow for the 30 Hours of Debate - with a likely vote on Saturday.

How did we get here and what was the Process?

1st BIG argument - the Democrats are really upset that the FBI did not Interview Blasey Ford OR Judge Kavanaugh.

Personally - I find it more than shocking that they appear to be clueless about what an FBI Background Investigation actually means. Keep in mind - this is NOT a "Criminal Investigation" of any sort -- there is NO crime to Investigate.

So .... what has the FBI been doing for almost a week and WHY didn't they interview either Blasey Ford OR Judge Kavanaugh?? Simple ..... the way the FBI handles these background Investigations to look for information on the people involved is to talk to those that KNOW them, those that are NAMED as witnesses or persons of interest

Let's not forget (because it's a certainty that the FBI is aware) that BOTH Blasey Ford and Judge Kavinaugh Testified under OATH for many hours. Blasey Ford ended her Testimony by saying she had nothing more to add .... she told everything she knew. She is fully on the Record with Penalty of Felony Perjury
All accepted that.

Judge Kavinaugh ended his Testimony in much the same way - all Senator asked their questions, he was fully on the Record with Penalty of Felony Perjury. All accepted that.

The FBI was asked to check all the witness and verify the information by the Judicial Committee - President Trump agreed and put the Senate Leadership in charge.

The way this works is that the FBI talks to ALL the witnesses who have given Oath Statements to the Senate Judiciary Committee - they use these interviews of the people named in the hearing OR named in Letters submitted to the Committee - to see if they are TRUE .... And to investigate any other people that might have relevant information.

It's been widely reported that the Blasey Ford Team (and Democrats) are upset that the FBI has not 'interviewed them" ...... they SHOULD (and I think they must) KNOW that is not how the FBI works in these cases.

Why "interview" somebody that is already on the Record (under OATH) that you have told ALL you know. What possible point is that - they look for others who might actually remember something. Blasey Ford said "That's all I know".

Basically the same thing with Kavanaugh - he made his statement -- the Democrats asked their questions - the FBI will check with others they all knew and see if they can verify those answers to questions.

That''s EXACTLY how they "investigate" when they are doing background and verification.
Been There, Done That.... more than once.

It's a bit of a Mystery why the Senate Democrats don't understand this process.
It's more than a bit of a Mystery why the Senate Democrats AND the Blasey-Ford Lawyers are upset that the FBI did not Interrogate Blasey Ford. Mind Boggling ..... unless, they feel they need an opportunity to Correct their Under Oath, Penalty of Perjury Testimony.

Probably unlikely that's it ..... but most people would not be demanding to talk to the FBI, when it's well known that if you tell them you put one pat of butter on your biscuit and they find it was 1.5 pats of butter ...... To Jail with YOU.

Buckle Up -- the final rounds begin tomorrow.
So you agree the FBI investigation. Which wasn't--was really a sham for Senators like. Mulkowski and Collins to justify their voting for Kavanaugh in spite of resistant in their home states?

That the FBI never had any intention of verifying if Kavanaugh lied under oath about his drinking habits or his sexuality since he made it a point to claim he was a virgin until marriage...
That the GOP had no intent in making this a cooperative effort to allow input from the Democrats who represent more than 50% of the people in America and who might want to have a say in what the FBI checked into based on testimony under oath...

Grassley himself was trying to force Ford to turn over her therapist's transcripts and the data from the polygraph exam although he outright refused to allow both of them to testify at the Thursday hearing in person AND admit their information into evidence at that time...
Nope he wouldn't allow that because he couldn't compel them to testify to what he wanted--
So now he is trying to smear Ford's story all over again by claiming to want this additional information so he can cherry pick what helps the GOP's case...

The only people who are afraid of talking to the FBI are those who have something to hide...
You have more than 40 people last count who knew Kavanaugh at Yale and want to testify about his drinking habits and party habits---and none of them were questioned...
No need to ask why--because their honest testimony about Kavanaugh's behavior would put paid to his "oath"

He is very likely going to be the first Supreme Court justice to be impeached from the bench...
If he and Trump together don't tear down the Constitution to get their way...
Consider what you wish for GOP...
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:35 PM
 
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Well of course since the FBI’s investigation was limited. And who limited them.
LOL.... we don’t like the results so.....
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:38 PM
 
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You have a valid point but it's better to speak out than stay stagnant in the pool of hypocrisy and corruption in this country under the wannabe dictator Trump. Vote in November.


Do you really think I. Would not vote????? I ALWAYS vote even in TX where a Democrat's vote is like spitting on a forest fire most of the time...
I just don't think people who are railing about this should expect to get anything but more cow tipping from Mitch McConnell---he is a nasty piece of turkey waddle...

I gave money tonight to the CrowdPac campaign for Susan Collins's opponent---and that money is gone because she WILL vote for Kavanaugh so I will gladly fund her opponent...whoever that might be...
And she is really dumb, isn'''t she----not just naive in an old---lady kind of way--but just dumb...
I have donated money to three Democrats running (NOT in my state even) and to Beto O'Rourke running against Ted Cruz in my state's senate race...
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