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I couldn't find a way to believe one more than the other. I still find it hard to believe Ford would testify as she did if she weren't telling the truth. On the other hand, if Ford was lying or not correct about Kavanaugh assaulting her, it isn't hard to understand that Kavanaugh would react the way he did. If Kavanaugh is guilty, it isn't hard to understand that Kavanaugh would react the way he did.
Ultimately, I (like Collins) am a strong believer in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty." Though something seems to smell awfully bad here, without some proof of Kavanaugh's guilt beyond Ford's claim, on what grounds do you declare Kavanaugh guilty?
Regardless, I am still disappointed so many Republican Senators are supporting Kavanaugh. Not because Ford should be believed instead, but because of how Kavanaugh handled himself, for what Kavanaugh himself acknowledged he should have handled better. Reminds me much of our last election. We really should be able to do better in terms of getting better qualified candidates to assume responsibilities of these highest levels; POTUS, Senators, judges. Much better.
Seriously? Literally thousands upon thousands of posts, many with links, and you are still looking for proof already provided about CBF's lies, inconsistencies, and "assistance" in prepping her story. As many posts also calling out the whole yearbook terms of the 80's being very different from today. You could be spoonfed 100% truth and if it conflicts with what you want to believe, oh well then.
Then spoonfeed me because the yearbook photos were quite benign except for the doctored ones on infowars and Gateway Pundit. Assistance in prepping her story? give me a break. "A source close to the classmates told the paper that it was her understanding that mutual friends of Ford and Keyser — including McLean — warned Keyser that her initial statement was being used by Republicans to rebut the accusation against Kavanaugh.The friends told Keyser that if she had meant to say she didn’t recall the party — not that it had never taken place — that she should clarify her statement, the person said, adding that the pals hadn’t “pressured” Keyser."
Why didn't you mention that Brett contacted his friends and asked them to defend them in an allegation that hadn't even been made public? That's all over the place so I shouldn't have to spoonfeed it to you but in case you missed it. https://lawandcrime.com/politics/leg...-with-witness/
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Franken had a fairly damning photograph. I don't like the guy, but don't necessarily think he needed to resign over it. His choice tho, so it's moot.
In the picture his hands were not touching the woman and she was wearing a military flak vest, that does not constitute groping or sexual assault.
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Senate Republicans deserve kudos for demonstrating that they have the courage, the passion and the fighting spirit to stand up to the leftist mob, together with their mass media enablers. These Republican Senators have typically capitulated to these forces in the past, so this is a really big deal.
It appears that the Democrat left orchestrators of this character assassination campaign are stunned that Senate Republicans and Brett Kavanaugh did not capitulate.
Two exceptions are Jeff Flake and Lisa Murkowski, both of who did capitulate and who have been a demonstration of quaking fear and accommodation to the leftist mob. Flake in the end appears to be poised to vote yes, but not before engaging in every sort of vacillation seemingly imaginable first. Murkowski will vote "Present," which is better than no. But her speech was at the core a capitulation to the pressure of the leftist mob. Both of these two should be ashamed of themselves.
The rest of the Republican Senators have aquitted themselves remarkably well. It seemingly never occurred to them to fight back against this sort of vile slander campaign by the Democrats before Trump took office. So it appears that Trump the fighter is rubbing off on these Senators and not a moment too soon. This is a major change in how politics is likely to be conducted in the US Senate going forward. If you lean right, it is long past time and it is cause for real heartfelt celebration. If you lean left, you might be thinking that this is one of your worst nightmares realized. If you are in the latter camp, you need to get some new and better dreams.
Is anyone going to lose their right to vote because of this organized economic power?
If not, how will those "folks" be squeezed out of the electoral process?
It's not that complicated. Big money knows that the poor and minority people will not usually vote for politicians who are groomed to do the bidding of corporations. All that's necessary is to make it harder for those people to vote. The supreme court has the power to uphold all sorts of disenfranchisement schemes ranging from ridiculously complex voter ID laws to partisan gerrymandering.
With not much effort the Supreme Court can shape the electorate in all sorts of nefarious ways.
Why didn't you mention that Brett contacted his friends and asked them to defend them in an allegation that hadn't even been made public? That's all over the place so I shouldn't have to spoonfeed it to you but in case you missed it. https://lawandcrime.com/politics/leg...-with-witness/
In the picture his hands were not touching the woman and she was wearing a military flak vest, that does not constitute groping or sexual assault.
That is different than calling them after they have made the official statement under penalty of perjury and asking them to change that sworn statement. Can you not see the difference?
I would assume it’s normal for anyone charged with anything to call friends asking for corroborating statements. What matters is whether or not they tell them what to say - you know, suborning perjury, also known as making things up.
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid forced a vote to change the rules governing debate over judicial and agency nominees to allow a simple majority of 51 votes to end filibusters. The change reduces the threshold from 60 votes to 51 votes for Senate approval of executive and judicial nominees.
Harry and Dems aren't laughing now.
Democrats supported it while ignoring Republican warnings that Democrats would regret changing the rules. Always remember that when you support changes, it might be good for you now but could come back to bite you. What else did Dems do during Obama's presidency that came back to bite them?
Let's no forget to thank former Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-NV) for his precedent of the “nuclear option.”
He eliminated the 60 vote threshold for Supreme Court nominees, thereby allowing Democrats to confirm The Great Divider’s nominees with a simple majority.
Once again, Democrats pissed in the pool and now they have to swim in it!
When Dirty Harry envolked the "nuclear option" years ago, he paved the way for the incredible sucess conservatives enjoy now!
Thank you Dirty Harry!
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