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View Poll Results: What do you think REALLY happened in the Mandalay Bay shooting?
The deep state carried it out to promote their politics/hurt Trump/push gun control 18 16.36%
It was an Islamic terrorist attack but was covered up by the deep state to prevent "Islamophobia" and opposition to unvetted refugees 14 12.73%
It was completely staged by actors 3 2.73%
A single person with no military/police training, no motive, and no history of mental illness really did do this for no reason 44 40.00%
Other 31 28.18%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-03-2018, 01:41 AM
 
Location: USA
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The news agency of the Islamic State issued a press release taking credit for the mass shook nkoting. It claimed the shooter was a recent convert to Islam.

FBI and County found nothing to support the claim and deemed it propaganda.

Imagine it would have been easier to deem it an act of terrorism than to conclude the shooter’s motive remains unknown ( as likely intended by the shooter).

Islamic terrorism is more believable than grasping people like this shooter walk amongst us.
If ISIS claimed responsibility that's one step closer than any other group. Just because law enforcement couldnt find a link doesn't mean much. Considering in the case of Fort Hood and Chattanooga, our very own FBI said those killings were work place violence, and not Terrorism, Im not sure what to believe out of them.
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Why do you disbelieve everything you are told?
What have we been told? We don't have a lot of information about a lot of things.

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Oh boy, this again?!

Look, the Vegas attack was not rocket science...

...a sociopathic, suicidal nutbag "whale" gambler with lots of money decided to go out with a bang so he bought a bunch of standard gun store crap, staked out potential targets and used his gambling connections to position himself right where he wanted to perpetrate his own massive murder-suicide massacre. Luckily Nutbags was not as smart as he thought he was because there are many other far more "efficient" ways to kill lots of people and Nutbag's "kill ratio" was pretty lousy considering his available resources and the fact that nobody was opposing him for some time before he chickened out and deaded himself.

Meanwhile, the Police response was sloppy, disorganized and slow (basically botched) and Vegas itself *might* have a corruption issue regarding the mega-casino corporations that ultimately make the existence of the city possible, muddying the waters as LV Corp. attempted to shelter the gambling industry and keep dollar bills flowing into the pockets of the town's powerful people.

That's all there is to it.



There is a sad truth about the world we live in:

Life is fragile.

Some human beings don't value human life.

There is no end to the "creative" ways one can come up with to end lots of human lives.

The fastest way to become a (albeit infamous) household name these days is to perpetrate a massacre... and finishing dead or alive with the #1 body-count of all-time is a sick game now in our culture.

Infamy is still notoriety and it's a common desire for folks to want to be remembered after they're gone.

As long as these things are all true, random mass murder attacks will continue.
Unfortunately, the bolded is very true. If someone feels like they are a nothing, a loser, never amounted to anything, this would be a very easy way for them to be remembered long into history.

No one really wants to be forgotten...some take drastic measures not to be forgotten, even if they did nothing with their lives that amounted to anything worthwhile.
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:41 AM
 
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So this week is the first anniversary of the deadliest mass shooting in American history, yet there are so many unanswered question, yet there's not more investigating and no "official" theories that make sense.

So what do y'all think really happened?
Based on the poll results, we've gotten a little better, but we're still in a hellva alot of trouble when people believe the " Lone gunman " no training scenario.

If the same thing would have happened 10 years ago, it's a fairly decent bet that poll results would be skewed far higher percentage-wise to reflect the same scenario.

Maybe another 10-15 years before almost the whole population wakes up?

Hopefully everything will remain intact that long.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:04 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I think there is more to it then we are being told. Hence the investigation hasn't been closed. I'm thinking he had help, they managed to escape and to not incite more fear, it is being kept quiet.
They did close the investigation and concluded that finding a motive was impossible.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:09 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Well, I will just state MY OPINION on one very possible explanation.

There was a man named Charles Whitman, he murdered and shot-up a lot of people. The "official" story suggests that a brain-tumor may have caused the former Marine to carry-out this crime. But with a jaundiced eye, some very heavy doubt has been cast on this theory. Many more posit that he could have been a victim of the same "process", while in the military, that Ted K was while in college.

The Las Vegas shooter, I would not be one bit surprised if he was used as a False-flag, to give Fedgov yet another excuse to make further power-grabs.

This is just MY OPINION.
That's what I was thinking. The deep state, motivted by leftism and globalism will stop at nothing. The same elements are the ones who put Christine Ford up to her lies about Judge Kavanaugh. Remember when the federal government burned all those kids alive in Waco in 1993 for political reasons? That was ordered by Janet Reno herself and approved by Bill Clinton.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:10 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The news agency of the Islamic State issued a press release taking credit for the mass shooting. It claimed the shooter was a recent convert to Islam.

FBI and County found nothing to support the claim and deemed it propaganda.

Imagine it would have been easier to deem it an act of terrorism than to conclude the shooter’s motive remains unknown ( as likely intended by the shooter).

Islamic terrorism is more believable than grasping people like this shooter walk amongst us.
With THIS theory, perhaps there WAS evidence Paddock had converted to Islam and become a terrorist, but this fact was covered up by the deep state for the sake of political correctness, to prevent Islamophobia.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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I don't think we'll ever know why it happened. I don't think it was some deep state nonsense, but I also don't think this guy didn't have a motive or wasn't connected in some way.

It wasn't a cover up, we just don't know why or how it happened fully IMO.
I could be wrong, but that's what my senses tell me.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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I don't think we'll ever know why it happened. I don't think it was some deep state nonsense, but I also don't think this guy didn't have a motive or wasn't connected in some way.

It wasn't a cover up, we just don't know why or how it happened fully IMO.
I could be wrong, but that's what my senses tell me.
Spidey senses.
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Old 10-03-2018, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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The news agency of the Islamic State issued a press release taking credit for the mass shooting. It claimed the shooter was a recent convert to Islam.
Terrorists organizations take credit for a lot of things they didn't do. It's part of being a terrorist organization. Pretty sure there would be some evidence somewhere that Paddock was a "recent covert to Islam."
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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What have we been told? We don't have a lot of information about a lot of things.
We have been told it was a lone gunman firing from high up a hotel across the street with high capacity armaments. We have been told he was likely experiencing bi-polar or other mental issues, and had incurred large gambling debts. We have also been told this was the only person involved in the shooting. But for some reason, some people don't want to believe what they have been told.
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