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Old 10-05-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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Those who get off on control and power over victims are more likely to target someone they perceive as weak. Stop living in fear as you are sending an easy victim message to psychos and rapists. There are no guarantees but you are less likely to be their prey. No one says “nothing bad will happen to you” if you “don’t do those wrong things” but you can certainly help limit the likelihood.
Sure they do. That's the point of this whole thread. Don't get drunk. Don't wear short skirts. Don't walk down a dark alley at night. Don't be alone with a man.

I'm not any more or less scared than anyone else. We're all scared of what we can't control and we all kid ourselves about how much control we have.

 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I believe that any victim of a crime has a moral and civic duty to report it immediately. Failure to do so enables the perpetrator to victimize others.
I wouldn't go this far but it's my hope that victims do see things this way and act accordingly. In the end though, we must respect a victim's right to remain silent no matter their reasoning.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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Those who get off on control and power over victims are more likely to target someone they perceive as weak. Stop living in fear as you are sending an easy victim message to psychos and rapists. There are no guarantees but you are less likely to be their prey. No one says “nothing bad will happen to you” if you “don’t do those wrong things” but you can certainly help limit the likelihood.
Bull. Even the strongest women are assaulted. More nonsense along the lines of "if you'd just done (insert whatever you're to blame for now) this wouldn't have happened to you". Enough of this. It's misleading and false.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Now what I find kind of funny, ironic, or weird about these conversations...?

The number of men who get offended if you treat them like they might be a rapist. Like if I go on a date with a guy from online, it'll be in a well lit public place, I will not be trusting him to drive me home, I will have a safe call, and good odds I've researched him online. I will be treating him like he could kill or rape me.

Do you guys feel comfortable knowing that a woman you go on a date with might be thinking of you like that?

Because some of the same guys who say a woman is only getting what she should expect, or what she deserves, if she makes it too easy, if she doesn't take precautions...like you tell us to not trust men, but expect us to somehow act like you are a worthy exception to that rule? Tell women not to trust men, but then expect a woman to trust you. That's pretty funny stuff there, boys, just sayin'.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:35 PM
 
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What were you doing to get yourself bullied?
Walking around looking nerdly is just teasing the bullies.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Now what I find kind of funny, ironic, or weird about these conversations...?

The number of men who get offended if you treat them like they might be a rapist. Like if I go on a date with a guy from online, it'll be in a well lit public place, I will not be trusting him to drive me home, I will have a safe call, and good odds I've researched him online. I will be treating him like he could kill or rape me.

Do you guys feel comfortable knowing that a woman you go on a date with might be thinking of you like that?

Because some of the same guys who say a woman is only getting what she should expect, or what she deserves, if she makes it too easy, if she doesn't take precautions...like you tell us to not trust men, but expect us to somehow act like you are a worthy exception to that rule? Tell women not to trust men, but then expect a woman to trust you. That's pretty funny stuff there, boys, just sayin'.
When I began dating again around 40's (I'm male, btw), I wouldn't think of meeting a woman without safeguards for myself. Woman can hurt you.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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Bull. Even the strongest women are assaulted. More nonsense along the lines of "if you'd just done (insert whatever you're to blame for now) this wouldn't have happened to you". Enough of this. It's misleading and false.
Reading comprehension, Rufus.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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It is every American's duty to protect themselves and not put themselves in compromising situations regardless of Gender, Race, Sexual orientation or Religion.

If a Muslim Heterosexual Man was found to have walked into a Christian Gay fraternity and gotten gang raped because he was drunk, twerking and wearing assless chaps, do tell us what the national reaction would be?

Queue the comedy central skits, "he's on the DL and really wanted it" and "he should have known better" etc. etc. Nobody would be blaming the Frat.

The morale of the story is nobody should be attending these Fraternity parties period if they value their freedom, reputation and safety. Drugs, alcohol, Testosterone and a lack of a fully developed pre-frontal cortex do not mix. I don't care about social responsibility in this circumstance and neither does the average 18 year old no matter how much they claim. I am purely looking at it from a biological and chemical standpoint. We are celebrating American Youth rituals and expecting a Molotov cocktail to not burn the house down.

Freedom has consequences. You do not know how other people are raised. Trust no one and take off the rose colored glasses. We need to be teaching this to our youth not raising them to be quirky snowflakes that can't stand up and speak up for themselves and choose their associates and the situations they put themselves in wisely.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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When I began dating again around 40's (I'm male, btw), I wouldn't think of meeting a woman without safeguards for myself. Woman can hurt you.
A few months back a neighbor asked me to go with her down to the police department near us so she could sell two TVs that she had posted on LetGo. Double safety was the thinking (police department and a male escort).

A 20ish, 6'4'' 225lb female (roughly) and a 20ish 6'3'' 210lb female (roughly) both got out of a F150 to make the purchase. They seemed pleasant enough. Very friendly. Smooth transaction.

Nevertheless, if the SHTF I don't think I could have took out both of these broads at once. My neighbor who I was helping out is like 5'0'' and 100 lbs. My best bet would have been to pick her up and throw her at these two if it was indeed a trap. Then I could have at least run away.
 
Old 10-05-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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A few months back a neighbor asked me to go with her down to the police department near us so she could sell two TVs that she had posted on LetGo. Double safety was the thinking (police department and a male escort).

A 20ish, 6'4'' 225lb female (roughly) and a 20ish 6'3'' 210lb female (roughly) both got out of a F150 to make the purchase. They seemed pleasant enough. Very friendly. Smooth transaction.

Nevertheless, if the SHTF I don't think I could have took out both of these broads at once. My neighbor who I was helping out is like 5'0'' and 100 lbs. My best bet would have been to pick her up and throw her at these two if it was indeed a trap. Then I could have at least run away.
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