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I am just one individual... I know three victims. None of them have come forward and even as a close friend they are unwilling to talk about it.
Yes. False allegations are terrible attack in an man's life. However they are just as damaging to the pleas of real victims... Those that blindly believe allegations are doing no favors for those real victims
Lawsuit accuses Seneca Valley 'mean girls' of targeting boy with false allegations
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Michael J. and Alecia Flood of Zelienople, Butler County, the parents of a teenage boy identified in the lawsuit as T.F., seek unspecified civil damages against the girls’ parents, the school district and Butler County District Attorney Richard Goldinger’s office. The lawsuit, which includes the term “mean girls,” alleges they “conspired in person and via electronic communication devices to falsely accuse T.F. of sexual assault on two occasions.”
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In a tape-recorded interview with school officials in 2017, the lawsuit alleges K.S. said she made the sexual assault claim against T.F. because “I just don’t like him.”
No question false accusations happen, and epidemic is not the standard. One false accusation is enough to require proof of all accusations. That's the law of the land, already decided, and not up for debate. OP is filled with qualifying language, guys in general and so on. Well, guys in general are not likely to be murdered either. Doesn't mean murder is not a problem. Give me a break.
Innocent people end up in jail all the time, and not all of them are framed. In many cases the system tries to do right. We hold trials, with months of preparation. The best minds in the country investigate. A fair-minded jury deliberates. The process still doesn't work. Yet people make snap judgments based on Internet articles and think there's no chance they get any part of the story wrong.
There are no silver bullets to understanding life. It's complicated. Exceptions happen. Every accusation deserves a second look.
Where on earth to you get that assumption? Please send us your source. I have been in the work force for 44 years, and I have never heard from any female co-worker that they had or were going to make such a charge, neither have I known of any male coworker who was so charged. I think your "extremely common" is actually "extremely rare." I have known a couple of "creepy" men, but never heard of anyone making any legal claims against them. Most women, when the detect a level of creepiness will go out of their way to prevent any possible situations.
False allegtions are very uncommon and those that lead to consequences are extremely rare. Cambridge Law Journal published a report that examined 10 years of false allegation studies in the US, UK and New Zealand. Most of the numbers are already low and he discoved many cases where an allegation was incorrectly deemed false. This is the largest review of studies available and it does not support the idea that false allegations are common.
Some people are so desperate to see men as victims.The truth is most assaults are never reported. This is because women are generally not believed and posters on this thread are part of the problem. Victims are judged and blamed for having a crime committed against them. There are numerous studies in which men admit to committing assaults and rapes. In most cases these men were never even brought in for questioning. I'm so sick of this worry for your sons nonsense. That would mean all your daughters are lying *******. Worry for your daughters because men get away with sexual assault all the time.
Most men don't rape but most who do are repeat offenders. These men will admit that the woman said no and was clear that she didn't want it but still claim irt wasn't "real" rape. This is true of even this most violent offenders. They do not see themselevs as part of the problem.
Excerpts from the Cambridge Law study:
1. deemed reports "false" if, for instance, the victim did not appear "dishevelled" and Stewart, in one instance, considered a case disproved, stating that "it was totally impossible to have removed her extremely tight undergarments from her extremely large body against her will"
2. officers seem to "have fixed views and expectations about how genuine rape victims should react to their victimization". He adds that "qualitative research also suggests that some officers continue to exhibit an unjustified scepticism of rape complainants, while others interpret such things as lack of evidence or complaint withdrawal as 'proof' of a false allegation"
Here is the actual conclusions from the study A 2006 paper by Philip N.S. Rumney in the Cambridge Law Journal offers a review of studies of false reporting in the US, New Zealand and the UK.[5] Rumney draws two conclusions from his review of literature. First, the police continue to misapply the "no-crime" or "unfounding" criteria. Studies by Kelly et al. (2005), Lea et al. (2003), HMCPSI/HMIC (2002), Harris and Grace (1999), Smith (1989), and others found that police decisions to no-crime were frequently dubious and based entirely on the officer's personal judgment. Rumney notes that some officers seem to "have fixed views and expectations about how genuine rape victims should react to their victimization". He adds that "qualitative research also suggests that some officers continue to exhibit an unjustified scepticism of rape complainants, while others interpret such things as lack of evidence or complaint withdrawal as 'proof' of a false allegation".
Rumney's second conclusion is that it is impossible to "discern with any degree of certainty the actual rate of false allegations" because many of the studies of false allegations have adopted unreliable or untested research methodologies. He argues, for instance, that in addition to their small sample size, the studies by Maclean (1979) and Stewart (1981) used questionable criteria to judge an allegation to be false. MacLean deemed reports "false" if, for instance, the victim did not appear "dishevelled" and Stewart, in one instance, considered a case disproved, stating that "it was totally impossible to have removed her extremely tight undergarments from her extremely large body against her will"
For those who claim a woman must be lying if she didn't report immediately, there are many reasons. This is a commentary by a prosecutor who initially had trouble understanding why sexual asaault victims would wait to report. After spending time face to face with victims he began to understand. Sexual assault is not like other crimes, there are so many myths and cultural assumptions around sex and rape that make it more difficult to report.
It's a commentary, not proof of anything but it might give some a little insight if they are actually open to any. Like it or not, anything involving sex is complicated dramatically. Everyone is individual in their comfort level. It can depend on culture, religion, and various other aspects of a person. Some women may have no trouble saying penis or vagina, other women would rather die than say those words out loud, and, in fact may never have said them before.
While the questions are fair, it is not honest to apply the same demands of logic to a sexual assault victim that we do to victims of robbery or credit card fraud. It isn’t that logic fails to apply, it’s that other factors change the equation and so the answer is different.
Victims of other crimes do not have to use the words penis, vagina and intercourse to describe what happened to them. And, if you were uncomfortable reading those words in the privacy of your home, imagine the anguish of using the same words to describe your rape to a stranger.
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They also don't have to get naked in front of strangers, be photographed head to toe, have an invasive exam, have their pubic hair combed and all the other parts of a rape kit. All that after being assaulted. For most women after an assault there is a desperate need to take a shower and wash the perpetrator away. It requires an amazing degree self control to fight this need and walk around with the assailant's fluids still on you, answer endless questions from someone you know is questioning and probably judging you, and wait for an rape kit to be performed.
In light of daily, never ending new threads from posters sounding the alarm about a culture that is supposedly growing more 'anti-male' with an epidemic of false allegations of rape, don't let these people divert attention away from the fact that sexual assault is a very real problem in our society.
Contrary to the sensationalist opinions expressed on this forum that men are in extreme danger of being accused of rape for simply complimenting a woman on her dress, false accusations of rape are rare as compared to real sexual assaults.
No, guys in general are not being accused of rape from one night stands, guy aren't being accused of rape for complimenting a woman on her looks, etc. etc. Just because the media sensationalizes cases where accusations of rape proved to be false (Duke lacrosse team, etc.), does NOT mean fake accusations are the norm. In fact, those women who typically falsely accuse men of rape fit a certain type of profile with a criminal background, which is why such accusations are rare.
The reasons why people here like to jump on the "most rape reports are false" bandwagon is because it suits their political agendas, and it also diverts issue away from the real issues since they love to live in a happy bubble where men are free to act any way they want towards women without fear (not to mention the women that enable the opinions of these men). This isn't a democrat/republican issue, so stop making it so.
The culture can be growing more anti-male and still have a problem with sexual assault, the two are not mutually exclusive.
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