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Old 10-06-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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I believe he is not guilty of any of these sexual assault charges. The Democrats slandering him with these allegations are despicable.

But the fact he helped get The Patriot Act passed does give me pause in my support for him.

"The documents show that Kavanaugh assisted in the effort to pass the Patriot Act and drafted a statement that President Bush incorporated in the bill signing. Kavanaugh wrote that the PATRIOT Act will “update laws authorizing government surveillance,” which he claimed, and President Bush then restated, were from an era of “rotary phones.” In fact, the PATRIOT Act weakened numerous U.S. privacy laws"
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I know you can say he was just doing his job, but in this action he helped to erode some of the protections afforded by the constitution. He does as you put it "play ball".
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Old 10-06-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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In the early 2000s, Brett Kavanaugh was an associate on one of President George W Bush’s legal councils. As part of his role on this committee, he assisted with the drafting of the infamous PATRIOT Act. To put it simply, this law tremendously increased the government’s surveillance powers, weakened former privacy laws, and led to the unconstitutional surveillance state we live under today. The PATRIOT Act laid the foundation for the wiretapping, data collection, and NSA spying that would soon follow.

For a supposed “constitutionalist”, it seems that Kavanaugh was actively in support of the highly unconstitutional practice of massive unwarranted surveillance. Such immense powers in the hands of government is more tyrannical than anything the Founders could’ve dreamed of. Therefore, Kavanaugh has shown that he clearly does not support the constitution as it was written and should not have the authority to interpret it.
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Old 10-06-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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How could anyone be ok with this?
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Old 10-06-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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If we wouldn't let in so many suspect foreigners into the country, there would be no justifiable need for the Patriot Act. Open borders was the "first sin".
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Old 10-06-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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How could anyone be ok with this?
Because most voters have pea brains, short attention spans, limited intellectual capacity, and thus can't be bothered with fundamental, meaningful issues.

It is much easier for 80% of the country to whoop and holler with inane childish schoolkid remarks than to actually
THINK.
You want to read stupid, childish, sandbox ignorant, and irrelevant, read this thread:

The Saga Continues, Part III: Post Justice Kavanaugh confirmation

At least ten more went on the ignore list in the last ten minutes.

This is today's electorate - doesn't provide one much hope for future of this country.

Clearly, we're on our way out.
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Old 10-06-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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How could anyone be ok with this?

You have to think of some of the hypocrisy on the Court. In the 2000s, Judge Roberts let the Obamacare Act stand... as a tax. This totally went against everything Big O told us to get it passed, he said it would wash the dishes in the sink and wake us up in the morning, it was a magical bill. It took Trump to end that foolishness, and now New Jersey apparently thinks it is a good idea again, following Massachusett's disastrous lead. NJ really is Mass Lite.



So, for the balances of power, the Constitution gives us the foundations of the country... meaning, The 2nd Amendment will now be the bane of whiny little liberal's existence.
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Old 10-06-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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As Ben Swann Laid it out, reps on neither side care about our privacy. Supreme Court is our last line of defense and it is under siege to be utterly replaced by those who will tow their nominating party’s line rather than be defenders of our rights in the Constitution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiObm7dtcyA
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Old 10-06-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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If we wouldn't let in so many suspect foreigners into the country, there would be no justifiable need for the Patriot Act. Open borders was the "first sin".
I was against the Patriot Act since its inception.
The threat from a terrorist killing me - probably .00001 %

The threat from the government abusing it given their track record - 100%
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Old 10-06-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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I was against the Patriot Act since its inception.
The threat from a terrorist killing me - probably .00001 %

The threat from the government abusing it given their track record - 100%
But what are the odds the government is going to physically harm or kill you because of the Patriot Act? I'm against open borders and the Patriot Act.
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Old 10-06-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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Because most voters have pea brains, short attention spans, limited intellectual capacity, and thus can't be bothered with fundamental, meaningful issues.

It is much easier for 80% of the country to whoop and holler with inane childish schoolkid remarks than to actually
THINK.
You want to read stupid, childish, sandbox ignorant, and irrelevant, read this thread:

The Saga Continues, Part III: Post Justice Kavanaugh confirmation

At least ten more went on the ignore list in the last ten minutes.

This is today's electorate - doesn't provide one much hope for future of this country.

Clearly, we're on our way out.
The Establishment have both parties exactly where they want them and with this arrangement, they can do anything.

The Blue Team wants to do away with this policy or create a new one.
Red Team - Not over my dead body.

The Red Team wants to do away or add this policy.
Blue Team - Not over my dead body.

Blue Team or Red Team, please jump off a cliff - Certainly Sir.

The Establishment Wins.
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