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Old 10-10-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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I'm wondering why the SJC Dems didn't investigate the allegations themselves before making blundering idiotic national fools of themselves and the Dem party (Schumer and numerous other Dems chimed in ). The FBI interviewed the accusers' own witnesses, and NONE of them will verify the allegations. NONE. What the hell were the SJC Dems thinking? That just claiming "me too" would be enough to destroy a man's life and career without any corroboration whatsoever? Just based on unverifiable "say so?"

You just can't get any more self-sabotaging than that. /SMH
So then why have the hearing? This was just a blip on the radar (for me) until I saw and heard both Ford and Kavanaugh. The day after via YouTube, when there was so much furor. Swetnick (or whatever her name is) seems to be some bimbo and I know little of Ramirez.

I entered this thread with that question and it's never been answered. Maybe I'm ignorant of Senate rules. Well, that I know but I'm sure assuming there would not have been a hearing unless the Republicans thought that to their advantage - admittedly after some Democrat (or possibly a Ford attorney, Grassley guesses not a Ford friend) leaked the letter?

For example, the Republicans refused to allow Judge to appear. They appear to hold the procedural power.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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So then why have the hearing? This was just a blimp on the radar (for me) until I saw and heard both Ford and Kavanaugh. The day after via YouTube, when there was so much furor. Swetnick (or whatever her name is) seems to be some bimbo and I know little of Ramirez.

I entered this thread with that question and it's never been answered. Maybe I'm ignorant of Senate rules. Well, that I know but I'm sure assuming there would not have been a hearing until the Republicans wanted one?

For example, they refused to allow Judge to appear.
They didn't refuse Judge, he didn't want to go so he provided a sworn affidavit instead.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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https://www.brettkavanaugh.com/

brettkavanaugh.com is now a woman's support website, advocating for survivors of sexual assault.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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What nonsense. Why do you nuts fall for this garbage time and time again? What's the flaw in your brains that allow this? How does one man out of 9 cause this? If it's "past the point of no return" as they say WTF can be done? According to them with that statement nothing possibly can be. Only really, really stupid people will believe this nonsense.
It's like how they claim Trump "runs the country". Now Kavanaugh runs the SC.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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So then why have the hearing? This was just a blip on the radar (for me) until I saw and heard both Ford and Kavanaugh. The day after via YouTube, when there was so much furor. Swetnick (or whatever her name is) seems to be some bimbo and I know little of Ramirez.

I entered this thread with that question and it's never been answered. Maybe I'm ignorant of Senate rules. Well, that I know but I'm sure assuming there would not have been a hearing unless the Republicans thought that to their advantage - admittedly after some Democrat (or possibly a Ford attorney, Grassley guesses not a Ford friend) leaked the letter?

For example, the Republicans refused to allow Judge to appear. They appear to hold the procedural power.
Read the FBI summary. Perhaps that will answer your questions about Judge and all of the other witnesses named by the accusers:

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news...mmary#_ftnref1

There's no "there" there. This was all just supposed to be a "me too" "say so" smear to derail a nomination. But the Dems grossly misread the willingness of an entire nation to ruin a man's life and career based solely on uncorroborated and unverified "say so" allegations.

It's all explained, here... The "wrap-up smear":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LlHU53G2Z0
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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They didn't refuse Judge, he didn't want to go so he provided a sworn affidavit instead.
I was referring the specter of "believability," of basing a standard or assessment on it in this matter. That Ford was "believable" (to many) blew this up with (supposedly) even Trump panicking ... Kavanaugh (for many) could have done better ... so why not throw Judge into the fray so his body language etc. could be judged?

The point was to stop it, and that's fine for it did need to end. If not at the beginning, then in the middle.

Obviously politics drove all this ... but the specter of Senators gathering around to discuss believability body language ... black humor

Regardless ... standards of law remain intact ... accusers still have the right to come forward ... there remains the presumption of innocence ...

Protestors who are saying women will never again be believed and who bang on the Supreme Court door are hysterical ... men who worry that women are now the possible enemy or some such language are equally off the mark ...

Too much. Another day on the American political scene, for sure.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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I was referring the specter of "believability," of basing a standard or assessment on it in this matter. That Ford was "believable" (to many) blew this up with (supposedly) even Trump panicking ... Kavanaugh (for many) could have done better ... so why not throw Judge into the fray so his body language etc. could be judged?

The point was to stop it, and that's fine for it did need to end. If not at the beginning, then in the middle.

Obviously politics drove all this ... but the specter of Senators gathering around to discuss believability body language ... black humor

Regardless ... standards of law remain intact ... accusers still have the right to come forward ... there remains the presumption of innocence ...

Protestors who are saying women will never again be believed and who bang on the Supreme Court door are hysterical ... men who worry that women are now the possible enemy or some such language are equally off the mark ...

Too much. Another day on the American political scene, for sure.
That was long winded but it still stands, the R's didn't keep Judge from doing anything he kept himself from appearing.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:47 AM
 
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That was long winded but it still stands, the R's didn't keep Judge from doing anything he kept himself from appearing.
Well, here Judge demonstrated good common sense. He did not change his testimony (initial statement upon actual FBI interview). That was the end.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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Of course the 'PROVEN' PERJURER was lying, just as he lied under oath about 18 being the legal drinking age in Maryland in 1982,IT WAS 21! HE WASN'T even 18,until 1983, so the creep was drinking illegally!


Hopefully when the Dems win back control.....they will impeach the piece of garbage!


Poll: Kavanaugh confirmation energizes Democrats more than GOP
And following the GOP-led effort to push through his nomination, enthusiasm among Democratic voters has surged. More than 3 in 4 Democrats (77 percent) say they are “very motivated” to turn out and vote in the midterms — more than the 68 percent of Republicans who say they’re “very motivated.”
Poll: Kavanaugh confirmation energizes Democrats more than GOP


You and your hard wing leftist friends can continue to make up falsehoods about the fabulous Special K all you wish, he approves of your right to do so.
The truth is, he is completely innocent of the charges, number one..!
...and number two, no matter what you say and do, the fact remains that he is now on the Supreme Court and shall remain for many years to come.
You can accept it and go on with your life, or you can follow in the crooked hillary mode, and continue to make excuses and incite mob violence for the next years, which will only have a negative effect on you. Brett is far too busy to read all the lies people tell about him, lies perpetrated only because he happens to be a fair minded person. Were he to side with the democrats, he would receive a pass no matter what he might have done..
Kavanaugh being confirmed is another big win for America.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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This was never about Brett Kavanaugh. They would have slimed and smeared anyone who Trump put up for this job. Kavanaugh just happens to be who he nominated. Why we continue to entertain their poor loser slander campaign as anything but that is a mystery to me.

The problem here is not in any way related to Brett Kavanaugh. The problem is the absolutely despicable conduct of the Democrat left.
The hostile democrats probably had done their research and had a lady from the past of all 20 on the list, who's ever name was drawn, they would have trotted the false accuser foreword, just as they did with the mentally challenged Mrs ford.
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