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Were not a direct democracy but the country was founded on democratically chosing people to represent our interests. There are ways to reform the electoral college to allow for a more democracy in the system. For many Americans their vote doesn't matter and some states matter much more than others.
Or is it going to take another victory in November for you guys to get the picture? Your slanderous, wedge-issue, never-Trump campaigning methods doesn't work anymore. People are sick and tired of the lies and hatred that your party constantly spews.
The rest of the country is moving forward. It's time to decide if you want to get left behind.
People are extremely tired of the lies and hatred that Trump spews. Hopefully the country will wake up.
I don’t think representation in the Senate is an issue. That is working the way it was designed. There the issue is changes to procedures, like getting rid of the 60 vote rule and a host of other things that undermine the “sober and balanced” role the Senate is supposed to play.
It is the House that is supposed to directly proportionately represent the population, and that where gerrymandering is having the most outsized effect IMO. That and in state legislatures. Right now the House does not accurately reflect the population.
It's outdated and insanely stupid...one person one vote is what should be the rule of the day. The EC should be allowed to wither on the vine along with the supporters of such archaic nonsense. It has enabled the stealing of elections. Relegate it to the dustbin of history.
I think your animosity comes from a lack of understanding of the purpose of it. The EC is one of the integral "checks and balances", in this case a bulwark against the mob rule that would otherwise be the dominant operant force in elections.
The winner take all schema is quite unfair though because it is a big step away from the "representation" envisioned in the democratic process and the "majority" position that you're looking for.
Ditching that might potentially be helpful and a compromise towards what you've proposed.
It's like you are pretending gerrymandering isn't a thing. Or that republicans aren't in power due to very simply voter suppression and ridiculous maps.
Frankly if gerrymandering ended republicans would lose up and down the country. It is weird how republicans can be like "WE ARE WINNING SEE DEMOCRATS!" Meanwhile more and more people are going away from republicans and more and more people and voting for non-republican things so.................... where do you think you're winning? You are winning in the opinions of people by raw numbers so you're winning by technicality and because Democrats try to play fair and lose every time.
Fair play like rigging the primary for Hillary?
Or Donna Brazile arranging for her to be prepped for the debate using the questions obtained in advance?
Or paying the mentally ill, the homeless, and street thugs to attend Trump rallies and assault and harass the Trump supporters?
And then leftist DNC mayors ordering their police forces to "stand down" so that the Democrat's Brownshirt Army of thugs and paid provocateurs could carry out their criminal mayhem without interruption?
It's like you are pretending gerrymandering isn't a thing. Or that republicans aren't in power due to very simply voter suppression and ridiculous maps.
Frankly if gerrymandering ended republicans would lose up and down the country. It is weird how republicans can be like "WE ARE WINNING SEE DEMOCRATS!" Meanwhile more and more people are going away from republicans and more and more people and voting for non-republican things so.................... where do you think you're winning? You are winning in the opinions of people by raw numbers so you're winning by technicality and because Democrats try to play fair and lose every time.
Gerrymandering needs to end. The lines need to be drawn by an independent, non partisan entity. Currently, it's much more beneficial to Republicans, than Democrats. In states that where measures have been created to address this, a majority of citizens from both parties seem to want more fairness in elections and support mesures aimed at achieving this.
Were not a direct democracy but the country was founded on democratically chosing people to represent our interests. There are ways to reform the electoral college to allow for a more democracy in the system. For many Americans their vote doesn't matter and some states matter much more than others.
Why should we allow California and NY to essentially elect the President by themselves?
Truth is, if the situation were reversed and Hillary had won the Electoral College and Trump won the popular vote, Democrats would be just ducky with the EC.
Fair play like rigging the primary for Hillary?
Or Donna Brazile arranging for her to be prepped for the debate using the questions obtained in advance?
Or paying the mentally ill, the homeless, and street thugs to attend Trump rallies and assault and harass the Trump supporters?
And then leftist DNC mayors ordering their police forces to "stand down" so that the Democrat's Brownshirt Army of thugs and paid provocateurs could carry out their criminal mayhem without interruption?
That kind of fair play?
Be careful. You're going to have a full meltdown on your hands telling them the truth. "Let them loot! It's only property!!!"
The pendulum swings both ways. Republicans are on top now. That's exciting for you, and it feels to you like "your team" will always be winning. One day - I don't know when - Republicans will take it too far, economy will crash, and Democrats will be on top again. And then they'll go through a similar cycle. That's the way it always works. Look at history.
Slander, hypocrisy, and all kinds of sleazy tricks for sake of power struggles also swing both ways.
Look at liberals how they believe all the victims now but looked the other way with Bill Clinton's accusers - HYPOCRISY.
Look at Republicans' talk of rule of law and innocent until proven guilty but slandered Obama with all kinds of lies and chanted "lock her up" on basis of purely personal opinion. Or how upset they are about obstruction and delay tactics now after what they did with Merrick Garland - ALSO HYPOCRISY.
Trump is the king of slander and lies. You can't tell me you support the man for his principles and integrity. You and others support him because chance happens to have aligned things to give him two shots at the bench. That's expedient, but that doesn't make him a good leader on any personal level.
the economy is cyclical the prediction for a recession is 2019 to 2021 depending who you ask. some even say longer...
but we are 9 years into a bull, it is the longest bull market of our lives, i doubt there are many alive who recall any bull as long as this one.
Trump has really juiced the numbers at a time when governments typically try to stop things getting too hot. And worse than that Trump is spending like a drunk. This is supposed to be the time (economy fully recovered) when we pay down some bills, save some monies for a rainy day... but for the first time in my life we have a POTUS that has massively expanded spending near the end of a bull run.
It makes no sense and it may make the recession a crash. We have seen the first signs that stocks are about to tip over , but due to the Trump freak show and the coming elections nobody seems to be paying attention at the retail level.
to be fair to Bill Clinton and his supporters, Bill was in a consensual but very inappropriate relationship vs a man who committed tax fraud and who has systematically attacked judicial system ,our security and law enforcement bodies... . They are hardly comparable in anything other than both having the same job.
I think your animosity comes from a lack of understanding of the purpose of it. The EC is one of the integral "checks and balances", in this case a bulwark against the mob rule that would otherwise be the dominant operant force in elections.
The winner take all schema is quite unfair though because it is a big step away from the "representation" envisioned in the democratic process and the "majority" position that you're looking for.
Ditching that might potentially be helpful and a compromise towards what you've proposed.
I do not agree with what you agree with and accept as the necessity of the EC.
Supporters of the Electoral College have a distorted view of this outdated procedure. The reason that many give for keeping the system is exactly why it needs to be abolished. The Electoral College encourages parties to write off more than 40 states. It causes candidates to prioritize their time and attention to the large swing states. A few states control the whole country.
If each person’s vote held equal weight, all votes would be important and sought after by the candidates. The Electoral College system distorts the one-person, one vote principle of a democracy because electoral votes are not distributed according to population. Small states are overrepresented.
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