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His lawlessness. The rule of law- which is really just having clear rules and ensuring that everyone follows them- is a bedrock of civilization. Trump and his enablers think that he is above the law. That is a recipe for disaster and dictatorship, not least because saying that a president is above the law will let the next Democrat be a socialist dictator.
Yes, his tariffs that have brought countries to the negotiation table to re-work bad trade deals unfavorable to the United States.
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Yes he is not politically correct and has dumb rants on twitter. But as President what has he done that is so horrible? How have any of his policies made your life "miserable?"
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But as President what has he done that is so horrible?
You can say many things about Trump but he is NOT lawless. To be "lawless" as President means that you do not follow the law as passed by Congress and signed by a previous President.
Can you cite examples of President's Trumps lawlessness??
I think the previous President on the other hand was pretty lawless.
Obama negotiated foreign treaties and NEVER even attempted to submit them to the Senate for approval. The Climate Change and the Iran agreements are two that are clear violations of NOT JUST LAW, BUT THE CONSTITUTION!!
He violated and refused to ask Congressional approval when he went to war with Libya. That is a violation of the War Powers Act. Remember LBJ and the lies about the Gulf of Tonkin...that's why we have the War Powers Act. Obama was lawless.
These are the most serious violations...there are many others. This is the reason President Trump has easily overturned much of Obama's legacy. It was NOT legal in the first place and the next President could and did go back to the rule of law.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-ignor...nks-hes-943315 "President Donald Trump defied a federal court judge who ruled Wednesday that it was unconstitutional for the president to block people on Twitter over their dissenting political views."
https://www.quora.com/Has-Trump-broken-any-laws-yet "The minute Trump was sworn in, he violated Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution, known as the emoluments clause. For example, the Kuwait National Day celebration, thrown by the Kuwaiti embassy, will be held at Trump’s downtown D.C. hotel in February."
You can say many things about Trump but he is NOT lawless. To be "lawless" as President means that you do not follow the law as passed by Congress and signed by a previous President.
Can you cite examples of President's Trumps lawlessness??
I think the previous President on the other hand was pretty lawless.
Obama negotiated foreign treaties and NEVER even attempted to submit them to the Senate for approval. The Climate Change and the Iran agreements are two that are clear violations of NOT JUST LAW, BUT THE CONSTITUTION!!
He violated and refused to ask Congressional approval when he went to war with Libya. That is a violation of the War Powers Act. Remember LBJ and the lies about the Gulf of Tonkin...that's why we have the War Powers Act. Obama was lawless.
These are the most serious violations...there are many others. This is the reason President Trump has easily overturned much of Obama's legacy. It was NOT legal in the first place and the next President could and did go back to the rule of law.
Lawlessness:
Calling the press the enemy of the people and wanting to shut down newspapers. Joseph Stalin did that.
Attacking Mueller, his investigation, the FBI, etc. He is damaging institutions that support the rule of law. If Trump did nothing wrong, then come clean and cooperate with Mueller.
Saying that he wouldn’t necessarily support the outcome of the 2016 election if he lost. Banana republic dictators do that.
Personally, continuing to own businesses that are affected by his policies. Total corruption and unconstitutional.
Would it be OK if a Democrat did these things? The GOP can’t oppose the next Communist tyrant who does- the next one will be far worse than Obama, and Trump’s attacks on institutions and the rule of law will make it much harder to oppose the next Democrat kook because precedent will have been set by Trump that a wannabe-Mussolini is fine in the US.
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Yeah. Look at the folks lined up to leave.
Just because we don't know about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening ...
The American diaspora
"The U. S. is the only advanced country that makes no formal attempt to count its emigrant citizens."
Makes a person wonder doesn't it, what our government doesn't want us to know?
But just in case any one is thinking about getting in the line to leave ...
5 Things you should know about being an American expatriate
"When deciding to move abroad and become an expatriate, about 83% of the US Americans are generally satisfied with life elsewhere, according to a recent survey by InterNations."
Calling the press the enemy of the people and wanting to shut down newspapers. Joseph Stalin did that.
Attacking Mueller, his investigation, the FBI, etc. He is damaging institutions that support the rule of law. If Trump did nothing wrong, then come clean and cooperate with Mueller.
Saying that he wouldn’t necessarily support the outcome of the 2016 election if he lost. Banana republic dictators do that.
Personally, continuing to own businesses that are affected by his policies. Total corruption and unconstitutional.
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Those are NOT lawless actions.
They can be a LOT of things in your eyes.....but they are not against the law.
That is why Obama's actions are so bad....we are a country of laws. He chose to circumvent them.
Trump Adopts Obama Approach While Seeking to Undo a Legacy
" ... both presidents shared similar impatience with a balky Congress and a desire to take action when stalemated. And they both challenged grousing lawmakers to step up and pass legislation if they did not like it."
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btw: it isn't suppose to be like that, but since we have a lazy congress, we live under a dictatorship, the only difference is every 4 years we put in a new nut at the helm.
To be fair, Putin was telling the truth and US intelligence was lying to cover up for their spying on him and making up lies about Russia to cover up their treason.
Who's side are you on?
OK, I already know the answer but I want to hear you attempt to show you are American. In the meantime, I have reported you to Homeland Security. Expect a knock on the door. Good luck!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-ignor...nks-hes-943315 "President Donald Trump defied a federal court judge who ruled Wednesday that it was unconstitutional for the president to block people on Twitter over their dissenting political views."
https://www.quora.com/Has-Trump-broken-any-laws-yet "The minute Trump was sworn in, he violated Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution, known as the emoluments clause. For example, the Kuwait National Day celebration, thrown by the Kuwaiti embassy, will be held at Trump’s downtown D.C. hotel in February."
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The Wilkipedia list is lawsuits FILED. There have been no final judgements by the courts on those issues that President Trump broke the laws. Anybody can file and lawsuit....and anybody can file it with a friendly judge. Know all about that.
On the others are they on the same scale and magnitude of lawlessness as.....and again, do we have a final court determination that Trump broke the law. Filing lawsuits is a fine political tactic.
Going to war without Congressional approval and negotiating treaties and NOT submitting them for Senate approval do you really think that Trumps "lawlessness" is worse than Obama's???
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