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Old 10-19-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: AZ
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The old "can't prove a negative" rube. Well, it isn't up to the educated people to prove that the on going natural climatic variation is NOT caused by man (even though it has existed, based on ice cores etc., "forever".

It is up to the kook-fringe (you and your fellow propagandists), to prove the natural cause have ceased causing climate change in deference to man's activities.

I am glad that you will no longer be spewing your propoganda, assuming you can keep to your word (not likely).
Obvious troll is obvious.

You don’t have a leg to stand on.

 
Old 10-19-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The average temperature of this past Summer in Central Texas, was down 10 deg. - F
Rain fall up above normal by a long shot. All the rains we have had this year, has cooled us down from 10 years ago, when rain was hard to come by.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Originally Posted by Open-D View Post
How pathetic your post is. Utter trash.
How is the post below "pathetic" and "trash"?
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
Did you not listen to what was said about the intensity of these storms? They're getting stronger and stronger. But never mind. You wouldn't understand.
I would have to say your public forum behaviors and posts are pathetic and utter trash.

I suggest you take a short course in productive discourse vs. your style which is ineffective and counter productive to rational discourse.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Your blatant copy-pasta doesn’t remotely disprove that man isn’t having deleterious effects on our climate.


And for the last ****ing time, CO2 absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation, aka heat. It is a greenhouse gas.

What is clear to the logical mind that is free from the deleterious effects of brainwashing climate propaganda and pseudoscientific fear porn is that the miniscule amount of time man has been engaged in activities that generate co2 from industrial activity is just a blink of an eye, compared to the Hundreds of Thousands of years of climate data we've managed to decode. That being said, there is no reason to believe, nor any evidence compelling enough to accept this narrative of man made CO2 causing climate change.

In fact, CO2 is a very small component of the atmosphere, with the man made portion being only a tiny fraction of that. The most prevalent so called "greenhouse gas" is plain old water vapor.

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/c...t-the-co2.html

But this business about CO2 absorbing and re-emitting infrared radiation seems a rather dubious distraction. Are these molecules of CO2 capable of free energy generation? If so, it may be the key to the whole debate!! If CO2 can absorb energy and re-emit the energy in greater magnitude, that would constitute free energy generation. If not, then this absorbing and re-emitting is a zero sum gain, which should have no effect.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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What is clear to the logical mind that is free from the deleterious effects of brainwashing climate propaganda and pseudoscientific fear porn is that the miniscule amount of time man has been engaged in activities that generate co2 from industrial activity is just a blink of an eye, compared to the Hundreds of Thousands of years of climate data we've managed to decode. That being said, there is no reason to believe, nor any evidence compelling enough to accept this narrative of man made CO2 causing climate change.

In fact, CO2 is a very small component of the atmosphere, with the man made portion being only a tiny fraction of that. The most prevalent so called "greenhouse gas" is plain old water vapor.

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/c...t-the-co2.html

But this business about CO2 absorbing and re-emitting infrared radiation seems a rather dubious distraction. Are these molecules of CO2 capable of free energy generation? If so, it may be the key to the whole debate!! If CO2 can absorb energy and re-emit the energy in greater magnitude, that would constitute free energy generation. If not, then this absorbing and re-emitting is a zero sum gain, which should have no effect.
Just...wow...
 
Old 10-19-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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Obvious troll is obvious.

You don’t have a leg to stand on.
what kind of moron writes this?

No legs, just facts, troll.
 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas View Post
What is clear to the logical mind that is free from the deleterious effects of brainwashing climate propaganda and pseudoscientific fear porn is that the miniscule amount of time man has been engaged in activities that generate co2 from industrial activity is just a blink of an eye, compared to the Hundreds of Thousands of years of climate data we've managed to decode. That being said, there is no reason to believe, nor any evidence compelling enough to accept this narrative of man made CO2 causing climate change.

In fact, CO2 is a very small component of the atmosphere, with the man made portion being only a tiny fraction of that. The most prevalent so called "greenhouse gas" is plain old water vapor.

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/c...t-the-co2.html

But this business about CO2 absorbing and re-emitting infrared radiation seems a rather dubious distraction. Are these molecules of CO2 capable of free energy generation? If so, it may be the key to the whole debate!! If CO2 can absorb energy and re-emit the energy in greater magnitude, that would constitute free energy generation. If not, then this absorbing and re-emitting is a zero sum gain, which should have no effect.
It's clear that understanding science is not your strong suite so why do you keep posting lies about science data? You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

You also don't know how to research online news articles that quote mine scientists and then make up their own narrative around the quote mined statement that has nothing to do with what the scientist stated. You know like that link you posted that claimed "Scientists find evidence of global warming on Mars". Such intellectual dishonesty and bad journalism...not to mention such gullibility and ignorance on your part to actually fall for such a stupid claim.

You are not the brightest tool in the box when it comes to global warming so instead of showing this over and over in each and every post I think your time would be better spent getting an actual science education.

People who are not scientifically literate only sound ignorant when they attempt to discuss science data that they don't have the slightest clue of understanding of the data.

Time for an education.

Here is the basic lesson.

How do human CO2 emissions compare to natural CO2 emissions?

Here is the intermediate lesson.

How do human CO2 emissions compare to natural CO2 emissions?

There is nothing logical about anything you post or state.

Let's start out basic with you. Define what a greenhouse gas is? What are the properties of a greenhouse gas? Does water vapor have the same properties that all the other greenhouse gasses have?
 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:05 PM
 
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It's clear that understanding science is not your strong suite so why do you keep posting lies about science data? You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

You also don't know how to research online news articles that quote mine scientists and then make up their own narrative around the quote mined statement that has nothing to do with what the scientist stated. You know like that link you posted that claimed "Scientists find evidence of global warming on Mars". Such intellectual dishonesty and bad journalism.

You are not the brightest tool in the box when it comes to global warming so instead of showing this over and over in each and every post I think your time would be better spent getting an actual science education.

People who are not scientifically literate only sound ignorant when they attempt to discuss science data that they don't have the slightest clue of understanding of the data.

Time for an education.

Here is the basic lesson.

How do human CO2 emissions compare to natural CO2 emissions?

Here is the intermediate lesson.

How do human CO2 emissions compare to natural CO2 emissions?

There is nothing logical about anything you post or state.

Let's start out basic with you. Define what a green house gas is?
You are indeed, the master of faux - faux news and faux science. Nobody is buying your bilge/propaganda anymore.

The earth is going to continue to do what it has for billions if not trillions of years, i.e. have an ever-changing climate. We will deal with that if there are any deleterious effects during our lifetimes, and our offspring if it happens during theirs.

IF the ocean goes up a few mm due to mankind, well so be it. Our limited lifetime and lifestyle is worth it, and we won't give it up for any of you charlatans and pseudo-scientists. Capiche!!!!?????
 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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NASA Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds

From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions.

The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

Results showed that carbon dioxide fertilization explains 70 percent of the greening effect, said co-author Ranga Myneni, a professor in the Department of Earth and Environment at Boston University. “The second most important driver is nitrogen, at 9 percent. So we see what an outsized role CO2 plays in this process.”

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...greening-earth
 
Old 10-19-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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How is the post below "pathetic" and "trash"?


I would have to say your public forum behaviors and posts are pathetic and utter trash.

I suggest you take a short course in productive discourse vs. your style which is ineffective and counter productive to rational discourse.
I have no interest in discourse with your side, I have every interest in defeating you and destroying your agenda, period. There is no discourse with people of your ilk, and they are not, in any way, worthy of it. They are the lowest form of scum - no different than Antifa, and one day your side will engage in violence when your pseudo-science fails to convince, and the sea levels stay virtually the same.

Your side is trying to take our freedom away and make us live a lifestyle you approve of, and you want discourse, I give you the virtual back of my hand as a substitute. I have no more patience for the vermin and their constant efforts, on every front, to chisel away at our freedoms,
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