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Old 10-14-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Why do they stand with the Trump voters? And if it's the dem's creation, fine, they take that L. But they seemed to latch on to the republican side. Why's that?

Also, I should say, dems can have their idiotic groups like antifa which need to be addressed.

But I always find it funny that right leaning folks here like to refer to the past as if there aren't neo nazis or KKK members sporting the red hats?

Why do Democrats call themselves Progressives? Progressivism & it's policies were founded by White supremacists. Forced sterilization, the minimum wage, abortion, etc. all tools to keep the poor, minorites and immigrants out of the work force and from reproducing, so the "intellectual elite" could more easily rule the masses. Hitler was so keen on Progressive policy that he adopted it in Nazi Germany. All the top Progressives were Nazi supporters. Charles Lindbergh (the most high profile Progressive/White supremacist of them all) flew over to Germany as Hitler's guest and rode in Nazi parades with Hitler. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, set it up as "The Negro Project" in Harlem, but rebranded it as overt racism went out of fashion. She also spoke about the need to keep the peopulation down at Klan rallies. For decades she continued to list as required reading "The Passing of the Great Race", by Madison Grant. This is the book that Hitler called "My Bible". On and on and on it goes. Fast forward to today and witness what happens when a Black man speaks out against their politics. They treat him like the inferior slave, they truly believe him to be. Anyone claiming to be a Progressive is worse than a Neo-Nazi or Klan member, in that those groups admit what and who they are, while the Progressives continue to lie about their true beliefs.

 
Old 10-14-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2012/...-d-williamson/






Read. Learn. The Dem party has always been the party of slavery and racism.
But the Dem party has NOT always been the party of conservatism which it WAS during the days of slavery and racism.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 12:22 AM
 
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Plus, have to consider who was in office at the time, the first drug laws were created...this was not about health or safety, this was a tool of racism, a way they could control minorities...

Its the exact same thing today, NO modern drug laws are geared towards protecting health or safety, there is always another underlying motive for them, and they cannot be as blatant in enforcement either, its why they make sure to arrest a certain percentage of white people for drugs today too, its an easy way to disguise their real intentions, they can always point to the arrest records and say, "See we have arrested other races for drugs too, not just certain minorities"...its very sneaky, I hope the average American can see thru this though.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I think saying the ideologies switched is wrong. Even in Lincoln’s time their were racists in both the Democrat and Republicans party’s. The difference was the Republican Party of that time was also home too the anti-racists while the Democrats really weren’t. Their ideologies didn’t switch in 1960s but neither party represented conservatism or liberalism as it meant today. What modern Conservatism which is dominated by Christian influence is completely different from the conservatism of the Democratic Party before the 1940s and the liberalism of the Republican Party before the 1940s is completely different from the liberalism of the Democratic Party today. Their was a time period in America were a social policy to help people get jobs wasn’t considered socialist/communist. The very interstate system, today if it was proposed could easily be seen as a communist idea, of government controlling people’s lives. I think things like the Cold War and WWII had huge effects on America to the point that saying they switched ideologies might be accurate but these ideologies themselves change overtime and it wasn’t like the Republicans at one point supported Abortion while the Democrats were against it, then that switched in 1960... it was a shift more than a switch in my opinion.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by Chicano3000X View Post
Why do they stand with the Trump voters? And if it's the dem's creation, fine, they take that L. But they seemed to latch on to the republican side. Why's that?

Also, I should say, dems can have their idiotic groups like antifa which need to be addressed.

But I always find it funny that right leaning folks here like to refer to the past as if there aren't neo nazis or KKK members sporting the red hats?
the Democrat party has always been about favoring 1 race over anotherr one and Republican Party about treating people the same, that hasn't changed. what's changed is the Dims have switched from prejudiced against black to prejudiced against whites. So if you favor discrimination against whites today, the Dims are your party.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 01:14 AM
 
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Why do Democrats call themselves Progressives? Progressivism & it's policies were founded by White supremacists. Forced sterilization, the minimum wage, abortion, etc. all tools to keep the poor, minorites and immigrants out of the work force and from reproducing, so the "intellectual elite" could more easily rule the masses. Hitler was so keen on Progressive policy that he adopted it in Nazi Germany. All the top Progressives were Nazi supporters. Charles Lindbergh (the most high profile Progressive/White supremacist of them all) flew over to Germany as Hitler's guest and rode in Nazi parades with Hitler. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, set it up as "The Negro Project" in Harlem, but rebranded it as overt racism went out of fashion. She also spoke about the need to keep the peopulation down at Klan rallies. For decades she continued to list as required reading "The Passing of the Great Race", by Madison Grant. This is the book that Hitler called "My Bible". On and on and on it goes. Fast forward to today and witness what happens when a Black man speaks out against their politics. They treat him like the inferior slave, they truly believe him to be. Anyone claiming to be a Progressive is worse than a Neo-Nazi or Klan member, in that those groups admit what and who they are, while the Progressives continue to lie about their true beliefs.
That's new to me.

Usually I saw progress as moving away from old ways that don't work. Like cleaner energy and overall treating people better.

But I guess there's multiple definitions to it.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Chicano3000X View Post
Why do they stand with the Trump voters? And if it's the dem's creation, fine, they take that L. But they seemed to latch on to the republican side. Why's that?

Also, I should say, dems can have their idiotic groups like antifa which need to be addressed.

But I always find it funny that right leaning folks here like to refer to the past as if there aren't neo nazis or KKK members sporting the red hats?

There have been and remain endless brands within each party.

Southern Democrat ideology, segregation and Jim Crow Laws were race related and not mainstream.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 compelled many Southern Democrat states to vote for Goldwater at the national level. That was the beginning of Southern states flipping Republican.

The current trend is more people identify as unaffiliated than by either party.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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As for Klansmen, those are mostly Democrats.
White supremacists are for voting for a Democratic Party which supposedly wants open borders, illegal aliens, and a non-white, diverse America? These Klansmen must be dumber than dirt. Thanks for the laugh.
 
Old 10-15-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: My House
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The parties (neither of which I belong to or WANT to belong to) switched platforms YEARS ago.

It's just not being honest with anyone to pretend otherwise.

Democrats used to be very conservative, while Republicans were more liberal.

Democrats are now liberal and Republicans are conservative. And, we all know it, so why does this topic keep popping up?
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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When you get your "facts" from Wikipedia, you're more than likely to be wrong than right.

The "Southern Strategy" has been debunked numerous times. Your big ol' switch contained ONE person.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/02...3JTJZD2XIVM7MR

They really need to start teaching history in school again.
Nixon called it the Southern Strategy in 1968- using desegregation and busing to appeal to Southern Whitt’s voters.

In 2005, the RNC Chair told the NAACP National Convention the RNC was wrong to have used race as a wedge.

Why would the RNC Chair acknowledge and apologize for a strategy if such strategy had not been used?

There have been and remain endless brands/ factions within each party. Southern Democrat ideology was one of many brands. Today, most White Supremists identify as Republican. It does not identify all Republicans any more than Southern Democrat ideology identified all Democrats.
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