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Old 10-15-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Hard to say. We would have to pass it to know what's in it. That much is clear.

It will be like Christmas and no one should know what they are getting, The Dems will see to it.

The present that will make you sick when you find out what it is.

A six month waiting list will make you really appreciate it when its your turn.

May 09, 2016 · Study: Bernie Sanders Single-Payer Health Care Would Cost $32 Trillion His single-payer health care plan would cost an estimated $32 trillion, according to the Tax Policy Center. And it's not balanced out enough by tax increases.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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There appears to be some idea that Medicare is "free" to those 65 or over ...... it's not and it doesn't cover much unless you buy the expensive extras.
Medicare certainly isn't free. But Medicare does cover a lot and you do not "buy the expensive extras".

There are 2 forms of insurance that you can buy while being enrolled in Medicare. Medigap and Advantage.

With Medigap you pay a monthly premium (which generally increases as you get older). It pays the 20% of whatever Medicare pays the 80% of. And almost always never pays for anything extra.

Advantage plans are run by private health insurance, provides total health insurance for those in Medicare who select the option. It covers essentially the same as Medicare and very little extra except maybe sometimes freebies like gym membership or free glasses, etc. With Advantage you usually have a small monthly premium and in some plans no monthly premium at all. You do make copays for what ever medical service you might need (with a total yearly cap on the copays).

Medigap is usually the best option as you can go anywhere that accepts Medicare. With Advantage you are usually stuck in an HMO and must use only those doctors and facilities within that HMO.

In total though, Medicare is very good health insurance. My wife and I have been in it for 8 years and have had absolutely no problems with it.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Just like in every other developed country, there would by for-profit health care services available as well as Medicare if you want to pay out of pocket for the for-profit service instead of being treated by Medicare.
Canada is single payer only. No second tier. While it works overall, because the population is small, for the US there definitely needs to be a second tier available for those who want to purchase it.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Yes, if they are healthy.
Actually the sick are more satisfied than the healthy
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:31 AM
 
Location: New York
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Obviously, every plan is different and asking what would be in it is just trolling. What do YOU think should covered?

Single payer wouldn't offer plans, it would be just like Medicare with certain drugs and certain procedures being covered. You would have to purchase additional 3rd party plans to cover costs not covered, just like Part B and Part D.

Medicare was never intended to be for the general public. It was intended to help the elderly and retired who are on fixed incomes.


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Canada is single payer only. No second tier. While it works overall, because the population is small, for the US there definitely needs to be a second tier available for those who want to purchase it.

Actually, Canadians do have 3rd party insurance plans called MediGap plans.






Here is a really great unbiased article on Canada vs. US healthcare:
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/a...h-care-system/

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Old 10-15-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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If the U.S did adopt a single payer system what type of health care options will people have? Will people be limited in any way with certain things or services?
Death panels. Government bureaucrats will determine what treatment you have and how.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Denver
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The fact is a large majority of Americans are quite happy with their current health insurance, liberal lies to the contrary.
I love made up "facts"

Medical bills are the top cause of Bankruptcy in the US
https://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148

The only reason most can afford any type of medical insurance is because their employer subsidizes them.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The fact is those on Medicare are much more likely to die than those with private insurance.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I love made up "facts"

Medical bills are the top cause of Bankruptcy in the US
https://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148

The only reason most can afford any type of medical insurance is because their employer subsidizes them.
No made up fact. Stop lying. Poll after poll shows Americans are satisfied with their own health care.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I love made up "facts"

Medical bills are the top cause of Bankruptcy in the US
https://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148

The only reason most can afford any type of medical insurance is because their employer subsidizes them.
Yes and we wish to keep our employer subsidized insurance
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