Risingng CO2 levels causing ocean acidification. Posing a threat to marine life.

[NY_refugee87]

Originally Posted by don1945

There is a LOT we can do. Solar and wind are not pie in the sky, they can work, and do work in a lot of places. Electric cars are going to help a lot, and, although I am a gas guzzling car nut myself, I can see the handwriting on the wall.

They are pie in the sky. ROI is a negative. Never mind the mining of materials to manufacture both.

Future is not with wind and solar. Atomic energy yes. Wind and solar? No.

Youtube/Google molten salt reactors.

[Floorist]

Shouldn't AGW posts be in the religion forums?

[Freak80]

Originally Posted by NY_refugee87

They are pie in the sky. ROI is a negative. Never mind the mining of materials to manufacture both.

Future is not with wind and solar. Atomic energy yes. Wind and solar? No.

Youtube/Google molten salt reactors.

Yes.

Wind and solar energy densities are extremely low compared to fossil fuels and nuclear fission. To get meaningful amounts of power from wind and solar, whatever is built to capture the energy has to be huge. Huge = expensive.

And then there is the problem of intermittency. For the USA to fully rely on wind and solar we’d need something like 10,000 pumped hydroelectric storage facilities, according to a physicist at UC San Diego:
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/11/pump-up-the-storage/
The amount of required lake area would equal the area of Lake Superior.

[whogo]

Originally Posted by NY_refugee87

LOL if you think solar and wind are cheap or clean I have ocean front property in Kentucky to sell you, cheap.

Did I say that?

Can you read?

[NY_refugee87]

Originally Posted by Freak80

Yes.

Wind and solar energy densities are extremely low compared to fossil fuels and nuclear fission. To get meaningful amounts of power from wind and solar, whatever we build to capture the energy has to be huge. Huge = expensive. And then there is the problem of intermittency. For the USA to fully rely on wind and solar we’d need something like 10,000 pumped hydroelectric storage facilities, according to a physicist at UC San Diego:
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/11/pump-up-the-storage/

Imagine the solar panel fields in Oklahoma when a tornado rolls through...
The wind turbines becoming massive lawn darts.
The amount of real estate wasted.

Don lives in Florida. We get hurricanes. This last one that rolled through tore roofs off no problem stripped sides off of hotels and everything. Looked like a bomb went off.
Bad enough you have palm and pine trees whipping around and houses being blown down. You want solar panels at 40 50k a rip to get demolished? A wind turbine demolished?

It's simply a fools errand, wind and solar. Is it good for orbiting space stations and satellites? Sure.
Yet. All deep space exploration probes/devices have onboard nuclear reactors. Even the mars rover had a pitfall when that dust storm rolled through and covered the solar panels.

Solar and wind for supplemental power sources? That seems more viable. But to be the only sources? Absolutely not.