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Old 10-15-2018, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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And unless you had a family member that signed up when the Dawes rolls were open you cannot get a CDIB card from the BIA to be a member of the Choctaw tribe.

https://www.choctawnation.com/contac...ip-information
Yes, I'm very aware of that. I did start to look, but for one thing, have you seen those rolls? Not easy to read. For another, the rest of my final paragraph should have illustrated why I don't continue the search - for what? As I said, even if there was a name, even if I were half or more, what would be the point? I haven't lived their life. It would be ridiculous to come waltzing in and start stating that I'm this or that...when I have never lived that culture or way of life. One single person in my lineage does not make me Choctaw, it will never make me Choctaw, and I would never claim to be or want anything from them. She is in my lineage, and I like to learn about the Choctaw nation and the people, the language, their culture, but that's all I would ever do.
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:59 PM
 
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If 1% means Warren is American Indian then 4% means Ralph Taylor is black!
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:01 AM
 
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Yes we do LOL a renowned geneticist has verified it. Do your homework. You cling to this percentage argument because you don't understand what you're talking about it's hilarious. The family claims the grandmother was part NA and we know that Warren inherited one 13.4cM segment as well as some smaller one's. You're embarrassing yourself.
No, we don't. They didn't test against any actual NDNs. They tested against Mexico and other countries south of the border. She has less than a tenth of a percent from that, and again, it only means "likely" not "is".

Further:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...U5M/story.html

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..Questions about Warren’s roots have continued to shadow her candidacy since the matter erupted in a political firestorm in April. Warren acknowledged that she had identified herself as a minority in a legal directory for nearly a decade, and she was listed as a Native American in federal forms filed by the law schools at Harvard University and University of Pennsylvania where she worked. Warren has never fully explained her assertion of Native American ancestry...

...Warren’s extended family has mixed opinions on the Native American question. The stories shared by Mapes, as well as Warren’s brothers and a number of her cousins, echo Warren’s assertion. But other cousins, some of whom also do not know Warren, say they know nothing of Native American blood in the family. According to one family biography, on file at the California State University at Fullerton, one of Warren’s relatives once shot at an Indian.
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Warren’s family, including cousin Mapes, have no documentation of Native American affiliation, nor is there evidence that they are listed on any official tribal roll.
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...In the absence of documentation, the family’s link to any Native American tribe is a matter of narrative inheritance or folklore, as Warren puts it. Even if Warren has some degree of Native American blood, it is unclear if it would meet conventional standards of what constitutes a minority.
And yet, she still did it anyway.

Some family members saying that you're NDN does not make you NDN, but that didn't stop her from making the claim for years...


Simple fact: She. Lied.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:03 AM
 
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trump said he's welshing. Won't donate 1 million to charity even though Warren won the bet he proposed.

What a lying, small handed little man he is.

So Sad.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:09 AM
 
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trump said he's welshing. Won't donate 1 million to charity even though Warren won the bet he proposed.

What a lying, small handed little man he is.

So Sad.
She has less than 1%!! She claimed to be Native American. That's like someone claiming that their mixed breed, angle biter dog is a Labrador retriever because one of the dogs along the way was bred by what looked like a lab.

Warren made the claim that she was Native American. 1% in most of our books isn't enough to make such a claim and she has less than 1%.

So How many tribes would accept less than 1% as good enough?
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:20 AM
 
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She has less than 1%!! She claimed to be Native American. That's like someone claiming that their mixed breed, angle biter dog is a Labrador retriever because one of the dogs along the way was bred by what looked like a lab.

Warren made the claim that she was Native American. 1% in most of our books isn't enough to make such a claim and she has less than 1%.

So How many tribes would accept less than 1% as good enough?
Yeah really she is possibly between 1.5% and 0%, and why should Trump accept her specialist's study results . The general understanding was that Warren was claiming to be over 1/16 (6%) maybe over 1/8 Cherokee and would have to submit DNA to Trump's testing lab. She has failed on both counts.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:25 AM
 
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And guess what else she lied about. Remember her participation in that cook book, where she labeled herself as "Cherokee" after her name?

Well:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...echniques.html

(Note: This article was from 2012, not today or any time recently - because people have been digging up the dirt on her lies for a long time.)

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Mrs Warren has been under scrutiny since she first claimed Native American heritage, arguing that because her great-great-great-grandmother was Cherokee, she is a member of the community.

The 1984 cookbook Pow Wow Chow was edited by Mrs Warren's cousin Candy Rowsey and is billed as a collection of recipes from the Five Civilized Tribes.

Mrs Warren's recipes are featured alongside her mother's directions for sugar cake and her two children's recipe for peach cobbler.

Mrs Warren's recipes include herbed tomatoes and a crab with tomato mayonnaise dressing, among other dishes.

But it appears that at least three of the five recipes featured in the book were fakes, according to an investigation by Mr Carr.

The two recipes for Crab with Tomato Mayonnaise Dressing and Cold Omelets with Crab Meat appear to be word for word copies of a French chef's design.

A third recipe for Herbed Tomatoes appears to be lifted directly from a recipe in a 1959 Better Homes and Gardens magazine, down to Mrs Warren's instructions for how to enjoy the dish.
More have dug into her past and have found that she's full of it:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/1...y-to-the-hype/

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Elizabeth Warren is not Native American. Her ancestry has been traced by Cherokee genealogists back to the early 1800s, as far back as there are records, and there are no Native American ancestors.

The one potential Native American ancestor was Warren’s great great great grandmother, Sarah O.C. Smith, but an initial 2012 report about that was debunked and The Boston Globe was forced to issue a retraction.
From the Boston Globe:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...seK/story.html

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Correction: Because of a reporting error, a story in the May 1 Metro section and the accompanying headline incorrectly described the 1894 document that was purported to list Elizabeth Warren’s great-great-great grandmother as a Cherokee. The document, alluded to in a family newsletter found by the New England Historic Genealogical Society, was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. Neither the society nor the Globe has seen the primary document, whose existence has not been proven.
Back to the previous link before the BG:

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[The] “correction” by the Boston Globe leaves several questions about their initial reporting of New England Historic Genealogical Society genealogist Chris Child’s statements about Elizabeth Warren’s ancestry unanswered. It states that the May 1 story and the accompanying headline “incorrectly described the 1894 document that was purported to list Elizabeth Warren’s great-great-great grandmother as a Cherokee.” However, as New England Historic Genealogical Society spokesman Tom Champoux has subsequently admitted on May 9, the original source document was not an 1894 document, as the Globe’s correction today suggests. Instead, it was a 2006 family newsletter.
So....

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Where does this DNA test result leave us:

1. Warren still cannot point to any specific ancestor who was Native American.
2. Warren never lived as a Native American or associated with Native Americans.
3. Warren never claimed to be Native American until her late 30s.
4. Warren only used alleged Native American status for employment purposes, and stopped claiming that status when she got tenure at Harvard Law School.
5. There remains zero evidence Warren was a descendent of the Cherokee or Delaware tribes.
6. The DNA test does not prove Warren is Native American, at most there is “strong evidence” of a single ancestor dating back 6-10 generations, based on analysis that compares Warren’s DNA to numerous groups, including non-Native American groups.
7. The media headlines overstate the findings.
8. Warren almost certainly is running for president, and rolled out these findings in a highly controlled and slick production for that purpose.
She's not NDN. There is no proof that she has any NDN ancestry. None. Zip. Zero. Nada.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:29 AM
 
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How long will trump's base believe his lies? We are less than 2 years into his presidency.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:15 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein and Maxine Waters have all proven to be a bunch of dishonest and corrupt liberal women that nobody should have voted into office.

What else is new?
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:35 AM
 
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In honor of the "brave" Cherokee Senator Warren.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1DdctgWUeg
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