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Its a political game called scare you into voting republican.
first you create an invading boogy man army thats heading toward America with all manner of desease/drugs/violent intent, then you come up with some bs story that Dems want to let all these poor people into the country,to prevent this one must vote Republican.Looks like the dim witted repubs are falling for it hook line and sinker
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Originally Posted by McGowdog
162 >>> 16.
We'll just outvote Y'alls ass.
That poster you responded to lives in Canada. They don't know what it is like here, even though they act like they do.
I don't recall that poster mentioning anything about whites or race. Perhaps you can point out where he did. His objection was to replacing or diluting American culture by mass immigration from illegal aliens, etc. American culture is a melting pot it's not just white culture. You do know the difference between race and culture, don't you?
I don't know what reform is needed. I'm not the one in government and haven't studied the issues to know. That's why we pay Congress the big bucks, to figure stuff like this out. I nor any Dems I know are putting immigrants on a pedestal and no one I know wants illegal immigration.
Well if you don't know what reform is needed and you haven't studied the issue, then how can you carry on an intelligent discussion on it?
I'll clue you in on it. There is already a process to legally immigrate into this country either you abide by it or you don't in which case you are in this country illegally. It's no more complicated than that. The laws are already in place, reform is not needed. Unless of course reform means open borders and the legalization of those who have already violated our immigration laws and are currently in this country illegally. Democrats are indeed putting these illegal invaders on a pedestal and they are indeed in favor of open borders and the granting of amnesty to all of those who have violated our immigration laws. This they believe will guarantee future Democrat voters and ensure their power structure into perpetuity. Of course the Democrats don't want illegal immigration. They want to solve this by making all of the illegal invaders and future illegal invaders legal. Therefore no one will ever be illegal again. Problem solved, pretty clever, huh? But obviously you wouldn't know any of this as you admit you haven't studied the issue. As I tried to explain in my previous post, I guess you didn't bother to read it just as you never bothered to study the issue. I'll repeat it for your convenience:
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The "mass influx of uneducated unskilled poor people" are only here to serve the purpose of turning the United States of America into a socialist aristocracy of which they will forever be enslaved to. Courtesy of the Democrat Party. They are nothing more than a means to an end. An end that most Americans both natural born and those who have immigrated here legally you'd think would be opposed to? Unfortunately we have reached the tipping point where the "takers" are beginning to outnumber the "makers". Making socialism even more palatable to a majority. Sooner or later we will indeed run out of other people's money especially when the middle class as they get pushed further down the economic ladder realizes that they can just quit producing and live off of the government just like everyone else.
About the only one's left that will still live a comfortable lifestyle will be our wealthy aristocratic overlords. Eventually this will lead to slave labor as someone, somehow, someway will have to feed, clothe, house and take care of the medical needs of the masses. There will be an end to competition which rewards those who strive to succeed as we all will remain equal regardless of our abilities. The United States of America will be no different from the third world hell holes of which these illegal invaders escaped from.
God bless you for doing things the right way and appreciating all of the opportunities this great country has to offer. Instead of expecting everything to be handed to you. You've got a great attitude!
The "mass influx of uneducated unskilled poor people" are only here to serve the purpose of turning the United States of America into a socialist aristocracy of which they will forever be enslaved to. Courtesy of the Democrat Party. They are nothing more than a means to an end. An end that most Americans both natural born and those who have immigrated here legally you'd think would be opposed to? Unfortunately we have reached the tipping point where the "takers" are beginning to outnumber the "makers". Making socialism even more palatable to a majority. Sooner or later we will indeed run out of other people's money especially when the middle class as they get pushed further down the economic ladder realizes that they can just quit producing and live off of the government just like everyone else.
About the only one's left that will still live a comfortable lifestyle will be our wealthy aristocratic overlords. Eventually this will lead to slave labor as someone, somehow, someway will have to feed, clothe, house and take care of the medical needs of the masses. There will be an end to competition which rewards those who strive to succeed as we all will remain equal regardless of our abilities. The United States of America will be no different from the third world hell holes of which these illegal invaders escaped from.
Indeed it is outrageous that these illegal invaders think that they can just barge into our country uninvited and demand that they be taken care of. Even more outrageous are those who support them.
White construction workers weren't run off the jobs. Most of them have gotten old and retired and their lazy sons and grandsons haven't replaced them. I have a paint subcontractor I work with who is a 28 year old Latino kid from Mexico City and he runs a crew of 10 guys. He works really hard but he also pulls in well over 6 figures a year. There is no formal education required to running a painting company. Any white kid could be doing what he is doing, so why aren't they? Its because painting is hard and often dirty work and these young white American males are soft and lazy.
I never said Latinos are superior to others, you made that nonsense up. I said that Young Latino men are tougher and work harder then young White American men. From my experiences on job sites that is 100% true.
Why aren't Americans doing painting jobs? Good grief! You really don't know? Well...I'll tell you why. Illegal aliens have undercut them. It has nothing to do with being "soft and lazy". How despicable of you to say such things. Believe it or not, there are illegals who are "soft and lazy". Stop stereotyping.
Anyone can paint and run a company? Yeah right A functionally illiterate illegal who doesn't speak English can set up his own painting company, get licensed, insured and bonded?
Sure anyone can paint. How many can do a professional grade job?
Anyone who picks up day laborers and brings them into their homes, deserves what comes to them. In my state if you hire someone who isn't licensed and insured and that person gets injured on the job, your homeowners' insurance won't cover it. Not to mention, you don't know anything about these people whom you bring into your home. If they steal something, try finding them again.
Does that "Latino kid from Mexico City" have at least, a green card? Is he paying taxes? Or is he paying under the table?
Do some googling. See how many Americans have been put out of work by illegals. --- Illegals do shoddy work, too.
And, yes, black and white Americans were run off the jobs. Why did you ignore the fact that honest contractors can't compete with sleazebag contractors who hire illegals and pay them under the table?
Be honest. This is all about you preferring to hire cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.
I cannot believe the hysteria on this issue. These people are seeking asylum, as people are entitled to do under our laws.
And as long as they abide by the laws of our country I don't have a problem with them at all. I don't think many people do. But they showed no respect for the laws when they crossed the border into Mexico so they haven't done anything to foster a feeling of "Oh, there's a mass of law abiding citizens seeking lawful asylum here."
Actually I didn't know some people were riding in vehicles. But it doesn't change the fact that they aren't expect to arrive for more than a month given their current rate of travel of approximately 20 miles per day, or less because those riding on the vehicles are going at the same speed as the people walking. It is a united caravan. So that doesn't change my point. There is no reason for troops to be sitting at the US border twiddling their thumbs.
Well, my military family (late husband 2-brothers-I-L my father) and every other male relative plus friends that are ex-military and still living, all hate his guts!
Well my military family (ex husband, two daughters, son, two sons in law, brother and my late dad) voted for him so I guess our families cancel each other out.
Yes. But best way to learn though is through experience. You only get experience by starting from the bottom and grinding your way up the ladder.
I know guys under 30 who make over 6 figures a year.
If Americans actually pursued these jobs they wouldn't need to rely on immigration. Even with immigration we still have a massive labor shortage.
Yeah, and that's what vo-tech is all about.
As for "a massive labor shortage" --- BS! That's why not every illegal waiting at 7-Eleven or Home Depot finds work.
Stop making excuses for hiring cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.
And you know it is that way. I talked to a guy who is a construction supervisor. He's Hispanic-American and is bilingual. He was buying a townhouse in a new development and would go everyday to check on the progress---and he always found shoddy construction. We bought from the same builder 20 years ago and never found shoddy work. Back then, Americans did all the work. Some would come to our area from the next state and stay in campgrounds during the summer.
Now that illegals are a dime a dozen, shoddy work is the norm. The construction supervisor told me he had talked to some of the illegals who were working on his new house. One told him that he gets $100 for every 3 townhouses that are painted in their interiors. He also talked to one who told me that he gets 10 cents per every sheet of drywall he hangs. The supervisor asked the drywall guy why he puts up with that. The illegal told him if he left the job, there are a dozen guys waiting to take it.
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Well...I'll tell you why. Illegal aliens have undercut them. It has nothing to do with being "soft and lazy". How despicable of you to say such things. Believe it or not, there are illegals who are "soft and lazy". Stop stereotyping.
