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We will be creating and maintaining tent cities in Mexico to house asylum seekers while they are waiting for us to process their requests. Once they enter our tent cities they will be in our custody, even though they would still be in Mexico. If their request is approved then they will be allowed into the US. If we deny their request for asylum then they won't be able to leave the tent city and melt into the crowd in Mexico, they'll have to stay in the tent city until they are sent back to their home country.
Here's what I make of it...
After waiting on Mexico's side of the border for an interview if they pass the credible fear test they will be allowed into our country and detained on our side of the border until their cases are proven and heard. If denied asylum after their final hearings they will remain in our custody until they are sent back to their own homelands rather than being sent back to Mexico. The problem with this is that we already have a back log of 750,000 case to deal with so that would mean that we'd have to house and feed them ourselves for who knows how long. Better than catch and release though.
There already is talk about the ACLU and other activist groups fighting this based on a law that even if they enter illegally they are allowed to claim asylum within our border. As another poster pointed out though there is a loophole to that law that allows the president to deny asylum claimed in that manner.
Probably with some vampires and zombies mixed in! I'm sure it will come rolling in right around the next big election. Strange eh?
Trump had no control over when the caravan started moving with their eventual goal being entry into the U.S. If there was any ulterior motive it was to pull on our heart strings around the holidays.
I'll take the vampires and zombies over the known criminals and those from known terrorist countries in this caravan any day of the week.
Trump has already issued a statement to the Gov. of Honduras and others that if they do not stop the caravan then they will face loss of further funding.
Trump wrote. "We have today informed the countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador that if they allow their citizens, or others, to journey through their borders and up to the United States, with the intention of entering our country illegally, all payments made to them will STOP (END)!"
My question is who is funding these caravans? How can 1500 people walk thousands of miles with small children? What do they drink, eat, where do they go the bathroom? Are there buses to shuttle them along?
Imagine the mess they would leave if they were to march down your street?
Why are they leaving their country in the first place? Who is encouraging them? Who is organizing them? Who is paying for their supplies?
Politically speaking I have a feeling that this group will be reaching America the day before the mid terms and how they are handled (the Dems) are hoping poorly ie. splitting up families again and this mess will be fresh on the minds of voters as they head to the polls.
We will be creating and maintaining tent cities in Mexico to house asylum seekers while they are waiting for us to process their requests. Once they enter our tent cities they will be in our custody, even though they would still be in Mexico. If their request is approved then they will be allowed into the US. If we deny their request for asylum then they won't be able to leave the tent city and melt into the crowd in Mexico, they'll have to stay in the tent city until they are sent back to their home country.
This is a fantasy. Nowhere anybody is talking about "tent cities" let alone on the Mexican side. They'd be stupid to accept it. It will become a refugee camp with open sewers and everything else that goes with it. Imagine the chaos in front of the interview booths. Mexico has already said WE have to deport them if their application is denied. Isn't there a US OCnsualte in Mexico City an dperhaps other cities. Anybody who wants to apply for asylum should go there, take a number and wait their turns. Why do we need tent cities? Problem is the same people who couldn't wait before will ignore the consulate and still mass at the border.
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This is a fantasy. Nowhere anybody is talking about "tent cities" let alone on the Mexican side. They'd be stupid to accept it. It will become a refugee camp with open sewers and everything else that goes with it. Imagine the chaos in front of the interview booths. Mexico has already said WE have to deport them if their application is denied. Isn't there a US OCnsualte in Mexico City an dperhaps other cities. Anybody who wants to apply for asylum should go there, take a number and wait their turns. Why do we need tent cities? Problem is the same people who couldn't wait before will ignore the consulate and still mass at the border.
Is that what cnn is telling you?
When I first heard about it the tents were going to be put up in Mexico, seems that they may be constructed here instead. But, both Trump and Mexico had talked about putting up tent cities to house them.
"Isn't there a US OCnsualte in Mexico City an dperhaps other cities"
Yes there are about eleven or so consulates in Mexico, which is where Trump told the caravaners to go to apply for asylum.
That is not journalism. That is a guy reading stories from various news sources and commenting on them.
If you want to see actual journalism, watch this video of a guy who's walking through the refugee camps and doing interviews.
And see who these refugees are. LOTS of mothers with kids. (And some sketchy looking adult guys too.)
Right, it's a local affiliate. They generally do a decent job covering the news. Meanwhile, CNN, MSNBC and the national CBS and ABC news are kind of ignoring what's going on. Granted, it's probably not very interesting news. They're in camps. They mostly have no plan. They're going to either sit there for the next several months or they'll give up and go home. Not something you can report on every day.
And they're cherry picking a bit by actively seeking out the mothers and children -- mothers who are being so irresponsible with the safety of their children that Child Protective Services would likely take them away. About 80 of women and girls going through illegal immigration channels get raped at least once along the way. But let's assume that they're fleeing something so horrible that it's worth the risk. Those mothers of small children refused an asylum offer from Mexico. Accepting asylum there would have landed them permanently away from whatever imminent dangers they were facing in Honduras and El Salvador and placed them in a better more prosperous country than they came from. And the bigger story you're on the ground reporting isn't telling you is that the vast majority of the caravan members are men traveling alone. If 85% of the caravans are men (it's somewhere close to that), due to the size of the caravans combined there's still plenty of "look at the poor children" footage fodder, and any idiot knows that's the footage that really sells -- so you don't end up with an accurate picture of reality on the ground as a result.
The national news media is failing at taking a look at all the data and analyzing to try and understand what's going on. That's where guys like Tim Pool come in in this case -- although I am a little surprised he's not on the ground doing his own reporting first hand. That's kind of his thing. The bigger picture matters. There are at least 1 billion people world-wide living in poverty who would love to come live in the United States. We can't just let everyone in who wants to come here. If we don't send the message loud and clear that this caravan method will utterly fail, then there will be millions more people who will risk life and personal safety trying the same thing -- when most often they'd have been safer staying where they were to begin with. Even more important, the people with enough energy to make the trek all the way to the US border are desperately needed in their home countries. Their energy and enthusiasm for change is desperately needed to make real change in Honduras, El Salvador, etc. Those nations aren't ever going to get any better if everyone who wants things to be better just up and leaves. We probably need to be cruel to be kind here and focus efforts on helping to actually make things better in Latin America.
If this caravan is not stopped the next wave could be one hundred thousand.
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Probably with some vampires and zombies mixed in! I'm sure it will come rolling in right around the next big election. Strange eh?
One hundred thousand may be a bit of an exaggeration......
But one thing is certain......if we allow this one, more will surely follow.
And odd are they will only get bigger instead of smaller.
That's why the whole talk about how far away they were weeks ago was completely irrelevant.
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If there was any ulterior motive it was to pull on our heart strings around the holidays.
