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I think its more widespread than just white people being afraid of speaking freely about black people.
It seems that everything we read or hear is softened to reflect political correctness & avoid offending anyone.
I'm offended that they think I cant handle the truth & I tend to speak my mind. If it offends someone thats their problem. Thats life & reality, if your alive you will get offended. Get over it.
Good point. I was wondering where all the hardcore, non-pc, "Free speech I'll say what I want in your face" advocates disappeared to when he hit the scene.
Good point. I was wondering where all the hardcore, non-pc, "Free speech I'll say what I want in your face" advocates disappeared to when he hit the scene.
I don't think anyone would deny Rev. Wright's "freedom" to say what he wanted.
That was SO not the point. It's what he said and who he's associated with. THAT'S what makes it a story. Not that he said it (though there should be investigations by the IRS into that "church's" tax exempt status).
You make a good point with the supply and demand argument regarding hair dressers. However,capitalism is not the only thing to blame here. For example, TO THIS VERY DAY many makeup companies do not make colors to suit darker skinned (Black, Latina, Native American, etc) complexions. This goes for both high end (ex Chanel) as well as drugstore brands. There are tons of women out there who would purchase these products, but they're simply not made. It's not as though the colors are available, but only in certain markets. They just don't exist, period. People of color are ignored by many major companies, and you better believe it's about race.
What's the sinister motive you're alluding to when you say, "you better believe it's about race.?" DO you imagine corporate board meetings in which they have power point presentations on how to exclude potential consumers?
BTW, MAC, etc. carries full lines of products.
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Originally Posted by abrown17
And hell yes, it's extremely inconvenient. Something as trivial as buying makeup, getting your hair done, etc becomes a major chore for black people. Even black hairdressers are trained only to deal with chemically straightened hair. Do you know how difficult it is for a black woman who doesn't straighten her hair to find a hairdresser, even a black one? Simply wearing your hair the way it grows out your head is a huge deal for blacks.
And this is indicative of what, exactly? All the black women I know use Dominican hair stylists.
Poor awkward whitey, what's the point? Guilty conscience?
I think you'll find that the "whiteys" with the guilty consciouses are typically more of the liberal types who try to overcompensate. I would venture that the vast majority of white people are of the attitude that they don't owe anybody a damn thing.
It's almost requisite to have guilt to be a liberal. And I can say that as a moderately liberal guy.
If someone is educated and speaking "ebonics," then they are play acting, and shouldn't be taken seriously....ESPECIALLY if they are talking ebonics to someone outside of their cultural sub-subset.
What's the sinister motive you're alluding to when you say, "you better believe it's about race.?" DO you imagine corporate board meetings in which they have power point presentations on how to exclude potential consumers?
BTW, MAC, etc. carries full lines of products.
And this is indicative of what, exactly? All the black women I know use Dominican hair stylists.
Who said anything about a "sinister motive?" I said people of color are often "ignored" as consumers. As in, not even thought of in the first place. If a board meeting is going on about excluding customers, that means they are thinking about them. Yes MAC is wonderful and loved by women of color, but that is only one makeup line. There are plenty more who don't make the range of colors that MAC does. That was my point.
Not being able to wear your hair the way it grows out your head without negative social consequences is one of the difficulties of being black in America. The other poster said a lack of black hairdressers in a certain area was due to supply and demand. And I am saying that even in areas where there are many blacks, finding a hairdresser for afro-textured hair is difficult. Natural hair is not deemed "socially acceptable" for blacks, which is absurd to me.
They will fry your hair and scalp with blowdryers and flatirons to remove every last kink. Many Dominican salons flat out refuse to deal with non-chemically straightened hair. If they do, they charge extra, because natural hair "is so much work." They rip through the hair with small combs, talk about you having "bad hair", etc. Don't even get me started on that.
I think you'll find that the "whiteys" with the guilty consciouses are typically more of the liberal types who try to overcompensate. I would venture that the vast majority of white people are of the attitude that they don't owe anybody a damn thing.
It's almost requisite to have guilt to be a liberal. And I can say that as a moderately liberal guy.
I'll completely agree. I'm a catholic AND a 'recovered liberal'. Guilt is absolutely VITAL to that mindset. The capacity for guilt (somewhat rare in the world, IMHO) is one of man's finest attributes. Yet it can be, and is, twisted and misused until excess, misplaced guilt becomes almost a 'badge of honor' in itself. Where to draw the line becomes the question.
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