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I know they are all neo-conservatives killers who are obsessed with destruction, slaughter, and war, but they don't even think their positions through.
Now the tactics they used here have so many falsities it's incomprehensible. First they claim Khashoggi had pro-Hamas friends. ok. That also means SA is pro-Hamas because Khashoggi was an insider close to the royal family.
Then he says Khashoggi was a terrorist for fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. What's the problem, those same terrorists (along with OBL) where funded by Reagan, the great American patriot.
Everywhere you turn these neo-conservative psychopaths who hide themselves as intelligent individuals like Shapiro, Shohrab, Rothman, etc. are just dedicated to war and death.
They say we need SA to fight Iran, but then they are conceding the fight with Iran is not a moral one (evil Iran, good America). These falsities keep going and yet somehow these people don't even blink when they say it.
1. nobody is jumping to defend anyone
2. there is no evidence the "journalist" is dead, just disappeared
So, by your standards, we should be perfectly willing to sell weapons to the likes of the Taliban and ISIS no matter what they do just as long as they've got the $$$, right?
We did during the Soviet-Afghan War. We had zero care the character of those people, as so long as they were anti-Soviet, that is all the US cared about. The US rather have a oppressive Islamic government resulting in numerous deaths and the severe oppression of millions, than a more tolerant, less oppressive, communist/Soviet aligned government.
You do realize quite a difference exists between starting a war and calling the Saudi's explanation as 'credible' and then questioning it but still praise the Crown Prince?
well, I am simply asking for a solution. No more/less.
Don't read TOO MUCH into my words. I am ONLY saying I cannot find any good guy over there in ME, in my opinion, Saudi killed this journalist. (this is NOTHING but an opinion) But I don't want this to be a reason for a war (figure of speech). If you choose to read too much into it, there is nothing else I can do.
Like I posted earlier, American government probably should come up with a good system to protect journalists visiting, traveling, living, working abroad. This seems to be reasonable expectation.
The biggest problem one has when they declare to the world they are Christian is behaving like they are.
Invading Iraq when we knew full well 9-11 was financed and done by Saudis was also a disgrace. If we are RR shining light on a hill, it is time to start acting like it.
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We did during the Soviet-Afghan War. We had zero care the character of those people, as so long as they were anti-Soviet, that is all the US cared about. The US rather have a oppressive Islamic government resulting in numerous deaths and the severe oppression of millions, than a more tolerant, less oppressive, communist/Soviet aligned government.
I believe that to be a direct descendant of McCarthyism. It seems every time the Soviets take a position on anything we feel compelled to take the opposing position and fight another asinine proxy war if necessary with little/no concern for what those positions actually represent.
I believe that to be a direct descendant of McCarthyism. It seems every time the Soviets take a position on anything we feel compelled to take the opposing position and fight another asinine proxy war if necessary with little/no concern for what those positions actually represent.
well just like everything happened in this country. A lot of talk, no solution.
Just like gun violence, what is the solution? This country is owned by special interest group, unless we change the entire system, nothing will ever change no matter who is the president.
well, I am simply asking for a solution. No more/less.
Don't read TOO MUCH into my words. I am ONLY saying I cannot find any good guy over there in ME, in my opinion, Saudi killed this journalist. (this is NOTHING but an opinion) But I don't want this to be a reason for a war (figure of speech). If you choose to read too much into it, there is nothing else I can do.
Like I posted earlier, American government probably should come up with a good system to protect journalists visiting, traveling, living, working abroad. This seems to be reasonable expectation.
Should we be calling the Saudi explanation credible and then when we back track on that statement still praise the Saudi Crown Prince?
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It seems every time the Soviets take a position on anything we feel compelled to take the opposing position and fight another asinine proxy war if necessary with little/no concern for what those positions actually represent.