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If you were running for political office and senior FBI officials brought you to a high-level counterintelligence briefing, there FBI officials told you Russians would probably try to spy on and infiltrate your campaign, would you assume the FBI would have surveillance or spies in your campaign?
Do you believe the FBI would allow Russia to infiltrate a presidential campaign without any surveillance or investigation?
Any rational person would assume a almost certain probability that the FBI would have surveillance and/or spies around them in that situation (unless you believe the FBI would allow Russians to infiltrate US presidential elections without any form of surveillance or investigation.)
No, no I would never expect that an administration would send spies into the opposing party's presidential campaign.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
While that may be possible it would be quite a stretch to allow a wiretap to go back in time in a limitless search, FISA warrants are much more stringent than ordinary warrants. The focus of this supposedly breaking news was that the FBI used informants, that is not a very large revelation.
It's not a stretch at all, that is exactly what a title-1 warrant allows. A title-1 warrant is only authorized against foreign agents actively engaged in illegal activity, which is why they had to use the dossier claims to tell the court that Carter Page was a foreign agent.
Now ask yourself this, if they had credible evidence that Carter Page was a foreign agent actively engaged in illegal activity, why hasn't Page been charged? Why is Page suing the DNC which would leave him open to discovery. Would a Russian agent leave himself open to discovery in a lawsuit, of course not.
Yep you're right about people needing to go to jail for a long time. Anyone who illegally colluded with a foreign government to win an election or committed campaign finance fraud needs to go to jail. Lock them all up.
The problem arises once he was elected President and it continued even after being sworn into office.
Once elected, the President-elect starts getting highly classified intel to make the transition as smooth as possible.
At the point of being elected in the early morning of Nov. 9th, 2016, all spying on Trump became espionage. A crime punishable by death.
They are now playing it off they were looking for Russians..... That is espionage.
Does it occur to you that the main reason that the FBI took an interest is because of Trump's long-time chumminess with shady characters and outright criminals? Plus his own dubious background. No previous presidential candidate has ever had such a shady background.
LOL, you do realize how shady and dark the FBIs history is...right?
Does it occur to you that the main reason that the FBI took an interest is because of Trump's long-time chumminess with shady characters and outright criminals? Plus his own dubious background. No previous presidential candidate has ever had such a shady background.
No, no I would never expect that an administration would send spies into the opposing party's presidential campaign.
It's not a stretch at all, that is exactly what a title-1 warrant allows. A title-1 warrant is only authorized against foreign agents actively engaged in illegal activity, which is why they had to use the dossier claims to tell the court that Carter Page was a foreign agent.
Now ask yourself this, if they had credible evidence that Carter Page was a foreign agent actively engaged in illegal activity, why hasn't Page been charged? Why is Page suing the DNC which would leave him open to discovery. Would a Russian agent leave himself open to discovery in a lawsuit, of course not.
Carter Page is not, and never was a Russian spy.
They never charged Page several years ago either, the warrants are for mostly gathering information and doesn’t mean they are guilty.
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