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Those countries will get 100 times worse and people will be fleeing faster. And that is what Trump wants. If he can keep people coming it wins him political points with fearful base who believe his lies.
We should look at why they are leaving--why aren't we doing something to find a solution to the problem instead of fighting the symptoms? Trump doesn't want it to stop or he'll have nothing to say at the next two years of re-election rallies. Maybe the guy should stop campaigning and ask some smart people about it, instead of Javanka and Miller.
"...But experts on refugees say those moves are unlikely to stop this caravan or stem future ones, since the migrants are primarily driven by conditions in their home countries, not U.S. policy...."
You can send a hefty portion of your paycheck down there weekly. Sign up your buddies to do the same.
But putting a boot on my throat and taking it from me, as I don't agree, is going to cause some BIGTIME resentment.
I say let's not stop there.
Time to quit buying friends and see who really is our friend, or just using us.
We may not like the answer to that question^. It's not just about being "friends", it's also about having customers for our goods, and alliances around the globe when we need them. To consider it "buying" is accurate enough, but another way to look at it is barter. We have wealth and other things to trade, for their loyalty, and for them to keep being customers of ours. Same reason a profit-driven company does charitable work in their community. It's not (only) to be good citizens, it's to "buy" a certain image, and to grow the business.
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Your comment below is spot on. (I'll send reps if they let me) You almost sound like someone from "my team". But that is exactly right. The real reason we provide aid to other countries follows the theory behind why we did the Marshall Plan. Yes, I realize it's completely different times, but the concept is not all that different. We want to build third world nations, partly so they grow their economy, and have needs that we can fulfill by selling our products and services. If we really "quit buying friends and see who is really our friend", then we might also limit our markets. I will also agree with you that those people are indeed "using us". But not "just" using us. Again, it comes back to the quid-pro-quo I hinted on above. We have aid and can help them to build their economy. By doing so, we are also (theoretically) growing our customer base.
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Originally Posted by BentBow
That sounds good for fodder, but if you want to be honest with yourself.
The Marshall Plan provided aid to the recipients essentially on a per capita basis, with larger amounts given to major industrial powers. This was based on the belief of Marshall and his advisors that recovery in these larger nations was essential to overall global recovery.
Those countries will get 100 times worse and people will be fleeing faster. And that is what Trump wants. If he can keep people coming it wins him political points with fearful base who believe his lies.
We should look at why they are leaving--why aren't we doing something to find a solution to the problem instead of fighting the symptoms? Trump doesn't want it to stop or he'll have nothing to say at the next two years of re-election rallies. Maybe the guy should stop campaigning and ask some smart people about it, instead of Javanka and Miller.
"...But experts on refugees say those moves are unlikely to stop this caravan or stem future ones, since the migrants are primarily driven by conditions in their home countries, not U.S. policy...."
We may not like the answer to that question^. It's not just about being "friends", it's also about having customers for our goods, and alliances around the globe when we need them. To consider it "buying" is accurate enough, but another way to look at it is barter. We have wealth and other things to trade, for their loyalty, and for them to keep being customers of ours. Same reason a profit-driven company does charitable work in their community. It's not (only) to be good citizens, it's to "buy" a certain image, and to grow the business.
I'm not into giving My customers a buttload of cash, just so they buy my stuff with it.
This sounds like a great idea until you think it through. Its perfect for those with no understanding of political geography, soft power, and global markets.
should've never been giving those cesspools a dime in the first place
Was the US giving aid out of the kindness of its heart or, perhaps, because it is in our economic and security interests to do so? Again, platitudes and soundbites might be appealing but it would behoove you to look at things on a macro level.
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