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whats the motive to improve services if you remove the profit? Let us know when you forgo your own salary to help others out
Insurance companies don't provide healthcare services. The collect money and pool it and pay part of that money out to the people who need it. There's no need to "improve" services of collecting money and paying it out.
Patients who were scheduled for surgery have to find a new doctor and start the process all over. Patients who were admitted, have to be transferred to other hospitals.
These two hospitals are big hospitals and not some small medical center.
Socialist health care is failing badly.
The choice of a primary doctor has to be in a certain zip code. Good luck to people who don’t live in the best areas. You will be stuck with the government telling you who your doctor will be!
Open your eyes as socialist don’t care about you. They care about other people’s money and run it down the drain. The socialist leaders will make sure they don’t battle same plan as you or they make sure thylive in the best areas.
Amsterdam was always part of Western, good society and is now becoming a healthcare poverty society as the system is completely broke.
Long wait time for treatments and for even seeing a doctor!
Careful what you wish for. Obama praises the Dutch and German system!
Obama praises a broken system and wished that on you!
Patients who were scheduled for surgery have to find a new doctor and start the process all over. Patients who were admitted, have to be transferred to other hospitals.
These two hospitals are big hospitals and not some small medical center.
Socialist health care is failing badly.
The choice of a primary doctor has to be in a certain zip code. Good luck to people who don’t live in the best areas. You will be stuck with the government telling you who your doctor will be!
Open your eyes as socialist don’t care about you. They care about other people’s money and run it down the drain. The socialist leaders will make sure they don’t battle same plan as you or they make sure thylive in the best areas.
Amsterdam was always part of Western, good society and is now becoming a healthcare poverty society as the system is completely broke.
Long wait time for treatments and for even seeing a doctor!
Careful what you wish for. Obama praises the Dutch and German system!
Obama praises a broken system and wished that on you!
This has got to be one of the dumbest posts ever!!!
Does the fact that the hospitals are privately owned and declared bankruptcy means something to you???........ like.... IT'S NOT SOCIALISM WHEN HOSPITALS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED!!!
Patients who were scheduled for surgery have to find a new doctor and start the process all over. Patients who were admitted, have to be transferred to other hospitals.
These two hospitals are big hospitals and not some small medical center.
Socialist health care is failing badly.
The choice of a primary doctor has to be in a certain zip code. Good luck to people who don’t live in the best areas. You will be stuck with the government telling you who your doctor will be!
Open your eyes as socialist don’t care about you. They care about other people’s money and run it down the drain. The socialist leaders will make sure they don’t battle same plan as you or they make sure thylive in the best areas.
Amsterdam was always part of Western, good society and is now becoming a healthcare poverty society as the system is completely broke.
Long wait time for treatments and for even seeing a doctor!
Careful what you wish for. Obama praises the Dutch and German system!
Obama praises a broken system and wished that on you!
Citizens in the Netherlands live on average 2.8 years longer and spend 1/2 the money on healthcare as citizens in America.
But republicans don't use statistics like life expectancy or healthcare costs to judge healthcare systems, instead republicans judge a healthcare system by who supports it (and if Obama supports a healthcare system its automatically bad and dangerous.)
Speaking of bankruptcy, according to Harvard 2 million Americans are bankrupted from medical bills every year.
Isn't US healthcare wonderful? ....only if you're a multi-millionaire or billionaire that can afford it.
For everyone else not so much. Even if you're a millionaire, you can still go bankrupt from medical bills.
That is how crazy expensive US healthcare has become.
Harvard Study: 60% of Bankruptcies Caused by Health Problems
Most victims are middle-class and have health insurance
By Truman Lewis
06/04/2009 | ConsumerAffairs | Senior News
A new study finds that more than 60% of personal bankruptcies in the United States in 2007 were caused by health-care costs associated with a major illness. That's a 50% increase in the number of bankruptcies blamed on medical expenses since a similar study in 2001.
In an article published in the August 2009 issue of the American Journal of Medicine, the results of the first-ever national random-sample survey of bankruptcy filers shows that illnesses and medical bills contribute to a large and increasing share of bankruptcies.
"The US health care financing system is broken, and not only for the poor and uninsured," said Harvard Medical School researcher David U. Himmelstein, M.D. "Middle class families frequently collapse under the strain of a health care system that treats physical wounds, but often inflicts fiscal ones."
Citizens in the Netherlands live on average 2.8 years longer and spend 1/2 the money on healthcare as citizens in America.
But republicans don't use statistics like life expectancy or healthcare costs to judge healthcare systems, instead republicans judge a healthcare system by who supports it (and if Obama supports a healthcare system its automatically bad and dangerous.)
How do you arrive at this cost ?
"Netherlands per capita healthcare costs- $5,198" ?
It is impossible to figure out since everyone's income is different. As far as i can tell, the national insurance tax is 27%. From this chart, it looks like anyone making over 68k euro is taxed at 51%. Which includes the 27%
How is this half of what we pay here ? And don't forget the VAT of 21% on goods. 6% VAT on food, drink toiletries.
It doesn't sound value added unless you make less than 68k euro. So basically the upper income people fund the program.
Yeah...no thanks. Like i said before,our system is definitely flawed but jumping to those high tax rates to fund "healthcare for all !" , that would be a big negative.
Speaking of bankruptcy, according to Harvard 2 million Americans are bankrupted from medical bills every year.
Isn't US healthcare wonderful? ....only if you're a multi-millionaire or billionaire that can afford it.
For everyone else not so much. Even if you're a millionaire, you can still go bankrupt from medical bills.
That is how crazy expensive US healthcare has become.
Harvard Study: 60% of Bankruptcies Caused by Health Problems
Most victims are middle-class and have health insurance
By Truman Lewis
06/04/2009 | ConsumerAffairs | Senior News
A new study finds that more than 60% of personal bankruptcies in the United States in 2007 were caused by health-care costs associated with a major illness. That's a 50% increase in the number of bankruptcies blamed on medical expenses since a similar study in 2001.
In an article published in the August 2009 issue of the American Journal of Medicine, the results of the first-ever national random-sample survey of bankruptcy filers shows that illnesses and medical bills contribute to a large and increasing share of bankruptcies.
"The US health care financing system is broken, and not only for the poor and uninsured," said Harvard Medical School researcher David U. Himmelstein, M.D. "Middle class families frequently collapse under the strain of a health care system that treats physical wounds, but often inflicts fiscal ones."
Two major hospitals in Amsterdam go bankrupt! Socialist healthcare system is broke!
Don't worry. Our foreign aid is probably already on the way.
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