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Old 10-27-2018, 07:39 PM
 
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And maybe in 50 years, they won't. If that occurs, America on October 31 will be just like it was 150 years ago. Which is still ... America.

God forbid the kids of America stop tramping around the neighborhood on October 31 just to get free candy. That would just be soooo un-American.
There's a difference between organic change and change forced on you by people who don't like you.

 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:41 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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And maybe in 50 years, they won't. If that occurs, America on October 31 will be just like it was 150 years ago. Which is still ... America.

God forbid the kids of America stop tramping around the neighborhood on October 31 just to get free candy. That would just be soooo un-American.

Once again, the children can still stomp around the neighborhood collecting candy from generous neighbors. This involves schools, not the community as a whole.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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There's a difference between organic change and change forced on you by people who don't like you.
If more and more people chose to stop celebrating Halloween, until it got to the point where it became an archaic holiday, that change would be organic.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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If more and more people chose to stop celebrating Halloween, until it got to the point where it became an archaic holiday, that change would be organic.
But schools banning it for diversity is not organic but forced changed. Diversity itself is forced. If we're going to have imported diversity and we shouldn't the diversity needs to assimilate.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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There's a difference between organic change and change forced on you by people who don't like you.
It's interesting that they do exactly that which they have professed to be fighting against. It almost leads one to believe that they really don't embrace this "tolerance" mumbo jumbo they are always spewing.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey (Europe Sep ‘19)
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I am a Calvinist. I actually celebrate Christmas and Easter, but I largely keep them as secular holidays, not really any different from the 4th of July or Thanksgiving. They're more "fun" than anything else. I also give kids who come to my door candy on Halloween, but that's the scope of it for me.

The problem with adding supposedly sacred holidays willy-nilly is, where does it end? If we can add holidays to celebrate some event in the Bible, even if the Bible does not tell us to celebrate it, we could just about fill half the year with holidays if we wanted. Why should some days be more special than others? We are told in the Bible to set aside 1 day per week as a "sacred holiday." One day a week should be more than enough. Adding more and more supposedly sacred holidays isn't going to make anyone holier. And of all the trivial reasons for a supposedly sacred holiday, the one you listed has got to be about the most trivial of all.

Anyway this isn't the religion section so I'll leave it at that.
This is enough telling me that you aren’t religious and don’t take the birth of Christ and his death and resurrection serious, especially the Easter holiday which is the most important and sacred holiday. Since you aren’t a true believer no need to argue or have any discussion with you.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Yeah to please Muslims, Indians and others 3rd world immigrants because they don’t celebrate it
Yet, those white liberals go back to their safe spaces and celebrate Halloween. What phonies.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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It's interesting that they do exactly that which they have professed to be fighting against. It almost makes one think that they really don't believe in all this "tolerance" mumbo jumbo.
They just hate the American majority culture and wish to erase it, that's my well reasoned conclusion. They can't come out and admit it so they gaslight and engage in constant mumbo jumbo.
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:47 PM
 
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Yet, those white liberals go back to their safe spaces and celebrate Halloween. What phonies.
Where do you want them to celebrate it? In south central?
 
Old 10-27-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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But schools banning it for diversity is not organic but forced changed.
Did you know that Halloween celebrations in the US are here because of diversity?

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Lesley Bannatyne and Cindy Ott both write that Anglican colonists in the Southern United States and Catholic colonists in Maryland "recognized All Hallow's Eve in their church calendars", although the Puritans of New England maintained strong opposition to the holiday, along with other traditional celebrations of the established Church, including Christmas. Almanacs of the late 18th and early 19th century give no indication that Halloween was widely celebrated in North America. It was not until mass Irish and Scottish immigration in the 19th century that Halloween became a major holiday in North America. Confined to the immigrant communities during the mid-19th century, it was gradually assimilated into mainstream society and by the first decade of the 20th century it was being celebrated coast to coast by people of all social, racial and religious backgrounds. "In Cajun areas, a nocturnal Mass was said in cemeteries on Halloween night. Candles that had been blessed were placed on graves, and families sometimes spent the entire night at the graveside". The yearly New York Halloween Parade, begun in 1974 by puppeteer and mask maker Ralph Lee of Greenwich Village, is the world's largest Halloween parade and one of America's only major nighttime parades (along with Portland's Starlight Parade), attracting more than 60,000 costumed participants, two million spectators, and a worldwide television audience of over 100 million.
You could say that the celebration of Halloween was FORCED upon us by Scottish and Irish immigrants of the 19th Century. Yes that's right, a bunch of immigrants brought about disruptive change to the US every October 31 beginning in the late 1800's. If it weren't for them, citizens of the US would still be going about their merry and ordinary business on Oct 31 without having to worry about buying silly costumes and rotting away their teeth.

The immigrants giveth, and the immigrants taketh.
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