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This was from the last post on another thread about sexual assault that was shut down. I mentioned Matt Lauer's situation. His accuser said she felt ashamed afterwards. I suspect it's because she had sex with her married boss in his office during business hours against company policy. It doesn't make the act any less consensual. I've read nothing to suggest she was coerced or assaulted.
The response to this in its entirety, from Mircea, was:
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Sex with someone who has power or authority over you is not inherently consensual.
Sex in order to keep your job or to retain favor with superiors so that you are not denied pay raises, promotions or advancement because you won't have sex with them can never be consensual.
Matt Lauer is a predator, just like Bill Clinton, and Lauer had sex in his office for the same reason Clinton had sex in the Oval Office, because they were on egotistical power trips, which is the hallmark of a predator.
I'd love to continue the discussion here.
An ego power trip doesn't make sex less consensual. Wanting to sleep with many women doesn't make one a predator. Is there something else I missed with Matt Lauer's co-worker and Monica Lewinsky?
I think women are attracted to males with power or authority and have consensual sex in part because of that. Or they want something in exchange, which is not the same thing as being denied something if they don't engage in sexual relations, then once they get it they vengefully, falsely claim sexual harassment. Claiming sexual harassment itself can't get them things.
Liberals love to judge heterosexual relationships. If it is two men having sex, or two people that don't know what they are, all is well and good. If it is a man and a women they feel obliged, even obligated to intervene, make demands, and construct rules which they believe are binding for the world.
They should just shut up. I can't wait until the country rebels agaisnt this ****. Liberalism is like cheap whiskey...some peope like the way it makes them feel, but eventually, most at the table get sick and puke.
There has been a cohort of women who trade sex for what they want always. I used to work with a guy whose fiance broke off their engagement because her boss offered (and delivered) a huge promotion for accompanying him to Cancun. She took it, got the promotion and as far as he knew, she thrived in the new job.
This was from the last post on another thread about sexual assault that was shut down. I mentioned Matt Lauer's situation. His accuser said she felt ashamed afterwards. I suspect it's because she had sex with her married boss in his office during business hours against company policy. It doesn't make the act any less consensual. I've read nothing to suggest she was coerced or assaulted.
The response to this in its entirety, from Mircea, was:
I'd love to continue the discussion here.
An ego power trip doesn't make sex less consensual. Wanting to sleep with many women doesn't make one a predator. Is there something else I missed with Matt Lauer's co-worker and Monica Lewinsky?
Monica specifically targeted Bill Clinton because SHE had a power trip to be able to attract the president. She threw herself at him, and he not being a faithful husband, was happy to oblige. That was completely consensual.
Women who sleep with powerful men often have these power trips themselves. Sometimes they are just so attracted to these men they don't mind being a side piece, they just want to be close to them in some way and it has nothing to do with favors. The man giving them that attention is enough. If they get delusional and think it is more than that then the man has a problem, with a stalker, a blabbermouth or a #metoo.
I agree, not everyone is a victim. I've been in the workforce for many years. Fortunately, I've never been in a position where I felt pressured to do something to keep my job.
There have been instances "offered" with no strings attached. No punishment if I declined, no reward if I accepted. People get to working together and they build an attraction or whatever you want to call it I've witnessed some of these "relationships" from the sidelines. All very consensual even if one held a higher position than the other. So it's now always about someone using their position for power over another.
Now, I'm not saying these were appropriate for the workplace. They really never are.
How is "engage in sexual favors with me or suffer consequences from your job" consensual?
Agreed, but what do you call it?
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