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Old 11-01-2018, 06:46 PM
 
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We are the only country that has this. All it does is cause trouble.

 
Old 11-01-2018, 06:56 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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We are the only country that has this. All it does is cause trouble.
Which countries grant unconditional birthright citizenship?
What countries offer unconditional birthright citizenship?
They are:

Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Barbados, Belize, Brazil, Canada, Chad, Chile, Cuba, Dominica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Fiji, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Jamaica, Lesotho, Mexico, Pakistan, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Uruguay and Venezuela.
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Nope, the u.s is the only country causing trouble.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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An 1898 US Supreme Court case confirmed birthright citizenship

https://qz.com/1447349/an-1898-us-su...t-citizenship/

With this revelation, Trump ignited debate about a long-settled issue, one the Supreme Court resolved 120 years ago in favor of birthright citizenship, though at the time the country’s laws were explicitly exclusionary and racist.
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:06 PM
 
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An 1898 US Supreme Court case confirmed birthright citizenship

https://qz.com/1447349/an-1898-us-su...t-citizenship/

With this revelation, Trump ignited debate about a long-settled issue, one the Supreme Court resolved 120 years ago in favor of birthright citizenship, though at the time the country’s laws were explicitly exclusionary and racist.
In reading the article “accidents of birth” a baby born here, but grows up in the country of their parents, upon working age, IRS can collect taxes.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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"Not being authorized to enter or be present" means the law applies to them and that they are in violation of it.

Then by your own admission the committed an illegal act, and no one may profit or benefit from it.


Because the parents were not lawfully situated and not legally present in the US, the children cannot benefit from it.


It's not a difficult concept.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Then by your own admission the committed an illegal act, and no one may profit or benefit from it.


Because the parents were not lawfully situated and not legally present in the US, the children cannot benefit from it.


It's not a difficult concept.

Then why are they? Are you saying SCOTUS ruled incorrectly and the laws as they stand are being done wrong?

It is the job of the congress and SCOTUS to determine these types of things, and a bunch of people on the internet saying it's wrong doesn't change anything.

And the thread is about the President thinking, and convincing a subset of the population, that he can write an EO and change this. He can't, and I think that is pretty much proven.
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:33 PM
 
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An 1898 US Supreme Court case confirmed birthright citizenship

https://qz.com/1447349/an-1898-us-su...t-citizenship/

With this revelation, Trump ignited debate about a long-settled issue, one the Supreme Court resolved 120 years ago in favor of birthright citizenship, though at the time the country’s laws were explicitly exclusionary and racist.

The case cited was about parents who were legally domiciled in the U.S. they weren't illegal aliens. The writer of this article said that Trump wants to deny birthright citizenship to kids born from foreigners in our country but what he fails to mention is that this is only about kids born from illegal aliens not legal immigrants. Big fail but nice try though!
 
Old 11-01-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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The case cited was about parents who were legally domiciled in the U.S. they weren't illegal aliens. The writer of this article said that Trump wants to deny birthright citizenship to kids born from foreigners in our country but what he fails to mention is that this is only about kids born from illegal aliens not legal immigrants. Big fail but nice try though!
Read the decision, it is very clear and does not limit citizenship to the children of legal residents, this has been covered at least 500 times in this thread.
 
Old 11-01-2018, 07:39 PM
 
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The case cited was about parents who were legally domiciled in the U.S. they weren't illegal aliens. The writer of this article said that Trump wants to deny birthright citizenship to kids born from foreigners in our country but what he fails to mention is that this is only about kids born from illegal aliens not legal immigrants. Big fail but nice try though!
Um, the constitution says born here. You may want to ignore it, and that's fine, but that is what we do, and that is not going to change without a constitutional amendment.
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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If the issue is ultimately taken to the Supreme Court, what do you think the decision of the court will be?

We have spent the last 155 pages yelling passed each other. I already know what you think should happen. But what will happen?
The left will tie it up through the Ninth Circuit or similar. The USSC will refuse to review the case. The famous duck of the USSC will again be used. No point to joining the issue unless they are willing to support the President's position which they will not do for a number of reasons.
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