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View Poll Results: Do the caravan migrants have U.S. Constitutional rights as regular U.S. Citizens?
Yes - they have the same constitutional rights as U.S. Citizens 1 0.98%
No - they do not have the same constitutional rights as U.S. Citizens 101 99.02%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-02-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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So these so called migrants, more like invaders think they have constitutional rights like every ordinary U.S. Citizen and some have gone the length to sue the President saying theirs are being violated.

What say you?




https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mi.../02/id/889108/
I say they have never set a single foot on USA soil and cannot claim US Constitution Rights.
Why would anyone thing any differently?

Has the Left lost it's collective mind. I just read the Lawsuit -


Plaintiffs,
Maria Doris Pineda, no current address;
Maria Doris Pineda, on behalf of her minor child D.R. no current address;
Jasmine Ortega Sanchez, no current address;
Jasmine Ortega Sanchez, on behalf of her minor child M.O.R.
Francisco Javier Castillos, no current address,
Holivia Adeline Castillos, no current address;
Francisco Javier Castillos, on behalf of his minor child F.J.C. no current address;
Holivia Adeline Castillos, on behalf of her minor child F.J.C. no current address;
Dina Ruc, no current address;
Dina Ruc, on behalf of her minor child J.S. no current address;
Marta Lopez, no current address;
Marta Lopez,on behalf of her minor child L.D.L. no current address;


4 Different Law firm involved and the they are suing 10 different individuals - all involved with Immigration, Customs, DOJ and Homeland Security + the President of the USA.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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What does that have to do with "he Executive has to act in accordance with US laws and international law to which the US is a signatory."

Do you disagree with the statement? Is it possible to just discuss the issue at hand, because it makes for very.... ineffective discussions to bring up any parallels or similarities if we keep bring up comparisons to prior presidents.

Obama did some stuff that SCOTUS disagreed with and changed. That is how our system works. Non issue.
Not when international law conflicts with the Constitution...the Constitution is supreme. No law can be binding on Americans that is contrary to the Constitution.

So all these "refugee treaties"....they're NOT binding, because the government has no authority to permit immigration or admit refugees into the US.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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I say they have never set a single foot on USA soil and cannot claim US Constitution Rights.
Why would anyone thing any differently?

Has the Left lost it's collective mind. I just read the Lawsuit -


Plaintiffs,
Maria Doris Pineda, no current address;
Maria Doris Pineda, on behalf of her minor child D.R. no current address;
Jasmine Ortega Sanchez, no current address;
Jasmine Ortega Sanchez, on behalf of her minor child M.O.R.
Francisco Javier Castillos, no current address,
Holivia Adeline Castillos, no current address;
Francisco Javier Castillos, on behalf of his minor child F.J.C. no current address;
Holivia Adeline Castillos, on behalf of her minor child F.J.C. no current address;
Dina Ruc, no current address;
Dina Ruc, on behalf of her minor child J.S. no current address;
Marta Lopez, no current address;
Marta Lopez,on behalf of her minor child L.D.L. no current address;


4 Different Law firm involved and the they are suing 10 different individuals - all involved with Immigration, Customs, DOJ and Homeland Security + the President of the USA.
I think if anyone looked at who is involved at these firms, it would quickly put to rest the lie that the Jews aren't promoting mass immigration into the US (and other western nations).

There's been a lot of stupid people here on this board who deny that this is what's been going on.....but they won't be able to ignore that.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Not when international law conflicts with the Constitution...the Constitution is supreme. No law can be binding on Americans that is contrary to the Constitution.

So all these "refugee treaties"....they're NOT binding, because the government has no authority to permit immigration or admit refugees into the US.

So we sign things thereby giving our agreement..... but we don't really agree?

We have laws for asylum, that are our laws, and it allows for immigrants to request asylum, no matter how they show up, and even applies if they are here illegally and caught. Those are OUR laws. You may not like them, but there is a process to change them.

Now whether or not they can sue for the right, I'm not sure, so I'll wait and see.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I do not think the group coming right now has standing. They are not here. Those who are already here may have standing and the case should go on.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:29 PM
 
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"Honduran Migrants in Caravan Sue Trump, Say Constitutional Rights Violated. Do they have rights?? "

Omg they have some nerve, screw them.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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They are not even on American soil to claim rights and have no standing. IMO

That's absolutely right.
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Well, here is a decent article on it, and it's from Fox News.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mig...utional-rights
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:23 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Trump has declared ICE will deny asylum to people who crosses outside of ports of entry. I don't know if that is a constitutional issue, but it is clearly illegal as OUR law says that people can claim asylum anywhere within our borders. Follow the law, Trump! You don't have to shoot anyone.
Wrong. Asylum seekers have to claim asylum at the first country they cross into. This caravan should have been stopped and all processed in Mexico. Plus Mexico has offered to allow them to stay there and to be able to work.

Asylum seekers can't cherry pick where they end up.

Maybe we could pass them along and give them to Canada.
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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Wrong. Asylum seekers have to claim asylum at the first country they cross into. This caravan should have been stopped and all processed in Mexico. Plus Mexico has offered to allow them to stay there and to be able to work.

Asylum seekers can't cherry pick where they end up.

Maybe we could pass them along and give them to Canada.
They are supposed to in a Designated Safe Third Country and Mexico does not have that designation.
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