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Old 11-07-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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Rosenstein should have recused himself. He digned several of the fisa warrants, and they are being investigated, so he can't oversee an investigation where he may be called as a witness or defendant.
he signed asking for them. Sooo..if a criminal objects to the guy asking for a warrant from investigating him, we're going to have a really hard time prosecuting crime.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:18 PM
 
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Sooooooo, is there anything new on this. There has still been no official conformation of him being removed from the investigation.

It's been reported that Rosentein left the WH with a smile on his face.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:22 PM
 
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I think Rosenstein is still in charge of the Mueller probe. I think when the Mueller investigation is concluded if it does, then maybe Rosenstein will be demoted or maybe fired or maybe nothing and just be irrelevant.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:26 PM
 
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I think Rosenstein is still in charge of the Mueller probe. I think when the Mueller investigation is concluded if it does, then maybe Rosenstein will be demoted or maybe fired or maybe nothing and just be irrelevant.
No, he has been replaced by the new acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, appointed by President Trump earlier today, as discussed here:

Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker (New Supervisor of the Mueller Probe)
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:32 PM
 
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No, he has been replaced by the new acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, appointed by President Trump earlier today, as discussed here:

Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker (New Supervisor of the Mueller Probe)
Rosenstein is not being moved up into Sessions place, but as far as the Mueller probe being taken over by acting AG Whitaker, that's not what Brett Baer and Trey Gowdy seemed to suggest just a bit ago. It seems Rosenstein still has control of the Mueller probe and that's probably why he isn't being fired.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:36 PM
 
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That's not what Brett Baer and Trey Gowdy seemed to suggest just a bit ago. It seems Rosenstein still has control of the Mueller probe and that's probably why he isn't being fired.
The only reason that AG Sessions was not ultimately "in charge" of this was because he recused himself. The new acting AG is not recused and will not be recused. Rosenstein may well continue to have duties, but he now has a new boss who is not recused from this matter and will certainly be involved in overseeing the work of Rod Rosenstein on this matter.

This matter is no longer solely up to Rod Rosenstein and whatever it is that he wants to do on this.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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Bout time. Great day for justice. Guy had way too many conflicts
So does Whitaker, he has already shown he cant be objective.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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The only reason that AG Sessions was not ultimately "in charge" of this was because he recused himself. The new acting AG is not recused and will not be recused. Rosenstein may well continue to have duties, but he now has a new boss who is not recused from this matter and will certainly be involved in overseeing the work of Rod Rosenstein on this matter.

This matter is no longer solely up to Rod Rosenstein and whatever it is that he wants to do.
You might be right, Fox and Trey Gowdy are still saying acting AG Whitaker hasn't taken over the investigation yet but may. I don't know if it makes much differences after the probe has probably ran its course anyway. But I don't care about the phony mueller investigation or this new acting AG either one. Rosenstein is the one who should've been fired.

One things for sure dirty Democrats are not going to want the new AG to take over.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:45 PM
 
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Its only natural that a new A.G. would assume the duties of the A.G.

I don't see what the fuss is all about when Rosenstein has a conflict of interest that makes him a witness in the Mueller probe.
So what about Whitakers comments criticizing Mueller and claims that Trump Jr was acting in good faith without know any of the details of Mueller's investigation. Seems like he has a good deal of bias going into his new position.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:55 PM
 
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I don't disagree too much. But Trump has had a vendetta against Session since his recusal, which is just totally ridiculous. This is a trait of Trump that has long bothered me before, that he is not loyal to his own people and just turns against them. Sessions owed Trump nothing more than he had been doing.

I know it might sound weird, but this isn't really fair to Trump.


He appointed Sessions without knowing he'd have to recuse himself from this investigation, which is a pretty big deal regardless of what you think of the merits of the case. It's questionable whether Sessions was even technically required to recuse himself, since this is a counterintelligence investigation and not a criminal one. He did the prudent thing for him, but it didn't do much for the role of the Attorney General.


I heard a theory about Trump and Jeff Sessions that kind of makes sense as a matter of optics. Trump gave Sessions a hard time in public because he had to make him useful somehow. In a more normal investigation, the AG would be able to stop Special Counsel from just conducting a fishing expedition and overstepping their bounds and going outside the scope of the investigation. But with Sessions recused and Rosenstein both implicated in a portion of the investigation -- he signed the termination letter of James Comey which is now being investigated as a possible obstruction of justice -- and rubber-stamping everything Mueller's team wants to do, there's nobody in place to call balls and strikes. So Trump would complain about Jeff Sessions and portions of the investigation because Sessions could not, and would not, do it himself.



Issues like the DOJ not actually citing a specific statute that they think was violated and them not being able to prove that the DNC server was hacked as opposed to being subject to a leak because they never ceased or even requested their server are not just Trump tweets or right-wing talking points. This is like DOJ policy and criminal prosecution fundamentals that have been in place long before Trump got in office. They even got his former lawyer to admit to something that isn't a crime by saying he paid off Stormy Daniels in order to "influence the election". These kinds of shenanigans only went on because nobody was there to check Mueller's team.
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