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Old 01-02-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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I don't understand your question. Unless you are saying like a John Galt type who just takes their ball and goes home because it's all about them.....
I havent gone anywhere, im just watching you pretend to not understand.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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the latter. weed those people out. if you refuse to work or be productive and instead rob people....well you won't last much longer and that's probably the way it should be
You realize that in your scenario, the people like yourself getting mugged will most likely suffer casualties as well, you're ok with that?
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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You realize that in your scenario, the people like yourself getting mugged will most likely suffer casualties as well, you're ok with that?
Id take my chances seeing how a govt mugging is a sure thing (taxation)
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Listen to this!

If because the doles stop, the mugging goes up, why does anybody want to give them the files to begin with?
Point being is people who are beneficiaries of social services now will not let themselves be kicked out on the street and denied food. They'll find an extrajudicial way to survive
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: IL
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So you'd rather their be bloodshed on both sides rather than maintaining social services?!?!?
i'd rather weed out parasites than subsidize them. I don't deny the short term cost but it would be better in the long run.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I havent gone anywhere, im just watching you pretend to not understand.
Pretend? Your question doesn't make sense, at least the way you worded it. Put it in layman's terms and we can have a convo....
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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i'd rather weed out parasites than subsidize them. I don't deny the short term cost but it would be better in the long run.
You realize that at least half the beneficiaries are children, do you not?
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: IL
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You realize that in your scenario, the people like yourself getting mugged will most likely suffer casualties as well, you're ok with that?
muggings happen every day
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: IL
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You realize that at least half the beneficiaries are children, do you not?
yes and if there was a way to JUST give aid to the children I would fully support it. The long term goal would be to eliminate generational welfare/poverty so fewer children are born into squalor
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: IL
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Point being is people who are beneficiaries of social services now will not let themselves be kicked out on the street and denied food. They'll find an extrajudicial way to survive
you act like every little old lady is going to have her purse stolen. That is just rubbish - a scare tactic. if robberies did increase it would most likely be stores burglarized. fewer and fewer people carry cash and credit cards are getting better at fraud protection.
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