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Old 01-02-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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trump is no choir boy. he should stay off twitter and his personal life is a mess. but he has hardly been incompetent. if you judged him solely by the media's portrayal of him, he should have an approval rating of about 10. The reason its still as high as it is is because a lot people do agree with his positions on important issues such as putting america first and securing the border. those things aren't going away even when trump does.
Why is turning the US Mexico border into the Korean DMZ or the Berlin Wall so important to so many people?
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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You cannot "create" jobs at $5 an hour if people are not willing to work for $5 an hour.
And you cannot wave a magic wand and suddenly make people's labor worth $20 an hour.
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It's better to be on the dole than to work for a wage where you'll still have to be on the dole anyways
FatBob96 and FirebirdCamaro1220, regarding the exchange between you both:
I do not doubt that an enforced minimum wage rate is an additional justification for public assistance; to the extent that the nation's definite legal or indefinite market enforced minimum rate is insufficient, that's further justification for public assistance.

I do not doubt that lacking a reasonably effectively enforced minimum wage rate within an economy lacking effectively full employment, is a cause for wages “racing to the bottom”. Consequentially that's the path for extreme national poverty and a need for public assistance.

I do not doubt that if there were no enforced minimum wage rate, a greater proportion of our population would be employed at wage rates of drastically reduced purchasing powers, to the greater net detriment of the nation's economy.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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FatBob96 and FirebirdCamaro1220, regarding the exchange between you both:
I do not doubt that an enforced minimum wage rate is an additional justification for public assistance; to the extent that the nation's definite legal or indefinite market enforced minimum rate is insufficient, that's further justification for public assistance.

I do not doubt that lacking a reasonably effectively enforced minimum wage rate within an economy lacking effectively full employment, is a cause for wages “racing to the bottom”. Consequentially that's the path for extreme national poverty and a need for public assistance.

I do not doubt that if there were no enforced minimum wage rate, a greater proportion of our population would be employed at wage rates of drastically reduced purchasing powers, to the greater net detriment of the nation's economy.
LOL! Because people are so eager to work for $1/hour.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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LOL! Because people are so eager to work for $1/hour.
If the safety net were gone, I guarantee you would get some takers to work for a $#!+ wage like that, as with a lack of a safety net $1/hr is better than nothing 🙁
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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If the safety net were gone, I guarantee you would get some takers to work for a $#!+ wage like that, as with a lack of a safety net $1/hr is better than nothing ��
How many? 10 or 10 million?
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
I'm not even going to dignify that with a response



Lolz....

Because you can't.


Here's another way to look at it that maybe you can wrap your brain around:

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If they use money that was given to them from the taxpayers to pay sales taxes and gas taxes etc.....

Then they are literally using our taxes to pay their taxes.

That's Insanity.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Lolz....

Because you can't.


Here's another way to look at it that maybe you can wrap your brain around:

See if you can follow along:


If they use money that was given to them from the taxpayers to pay sales taxes and gas taxes etc.....

Then they are literally using our taxes to pay their taxes.

That's Insanity.
Your point being? You don't have a leg to stand on here, because that's what public sector employees already do, they are paid from taxes, and they in turn have taxes taken out of their pay, so not as insane as you make it out to be.....
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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Your point being? You don't have a leg to stand on here, because that's what public sector employees already do, they are paid from taxes, and they in turn have taxes taken out of their pay, so not as insane as you make it out to be.....
Public employees are paid to do the jobs.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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Why is turning the US Mexico border into the Korean DMZ or the Berlin Wall so important to so many people?
Why is leaving the border wide open and letting anyone and anything cross so damn important to so many people?
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Why is leaving the border wide open and letting anyone and anything cross so damn important to so many people?
Not the case and you know it.....
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