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The only problem I have with 14th amend is rich foreign women (mostly Chinese women) coming to United States, give birth at a US hospital, go back to China with unpaid hospital bills. Some of them do paid for their hospital bills because they want to be able to immigrate to US in the future.
That was an election talking point to get people to the polls.
Right! His base wouldn't have gone to the polls if not for that and the caravan issue. Yeah, I saw a big sway towards the Republican candidates in this mid term election because of the above. Oh, that's right, the GOP lost the house just as predicted before any of the above occurred.
Both Congress and the Courts have defined "under the jurisdiction thereof" and ruled that it doesn't include illegal aliens. So the President is entirely within his Constitutional authority to issue an Executive Order saying:
Starting on the day the Order is published, the children born on that date or later on U.S. soil, of illegal aliens who entered or stayed in the U.S. without permission, are not American citizens. As such, they must be deported along with their parents when the family is healthy and safe to travel. They (and their parents) cannot become U.S. Citizens unless they go through the legal procedures for legal entry and naturalization.
The House of Representatives (which will do nothing that Trump approves of, no matter how much it would help the U.S.) need not do anything, they can't approve or disapprove an EO that is based on earlier Acts of Congress or Supreme Court rulings. The only way they could block such an EO, is either:
1.) to make a new law saying the definition of "under the jurisdiction" is now changed to include illegal aliens... and get it to also pass the Senate and get signed by the President.
-or-
2.) to get the Courts to pretend it's not constitutional. Good luck doing that with the large numbers of law-abiding judges and justices Trump has been appointing and getting confirmed by the Senate.
He should start preparing such an EO now. It must be kept quiet until signed, so we don't get a huge flood of illegal aliens crashing the border to try to give birth here before it goes into effect. The President could conceivably have this vetted by appropriate lawyers, drafted, and ready to sign literally in a few days.
Both Congress and the Courts have defined "under the jurisdiction thereof" and ruled that it doesn't include illegal aliens. So the President is entirely within his Constitutional authority to issue an Executive Order saying:
Starting on the day the Order is published, the children born on that date or later on U.S. soil, of illegal aliens who entered or stayed in the U.S. without permission, are not American citizens. As such, they must be deported along with their parents when the family is healthy and safe to travel. They (and their parents) cannot become U.S. Citizens unless they go through the legal procedures for legal entry and naturalization.
The House of Representatives (which will do nothing that Trump approves of, no matter how much it would help the U.S.) need not do anything, they can't approve or disapprove an EO that is based on earlier Acts of Congress or Supreme Court rulings. The only way they could block such an EO, is either:
1.) to make a new law saying the definition of "under the jurisdiction" is now changed to include illegal aliens... and get it to also pass the Senate and get signed by the President.
-or-
2.) to get the Courts to pretend it's not constitutional. Good luck doing that with the large numbers of law-abiding judges and justices Trump has been appointing and getting confirmed by the Senate.
He should start preparing such an EO now. It must be kept quiet until signed, so we don't get a huge flood of illegal aliens crashing the border to try to give birth here before it goes into effect. The President could conceivably have this vetted by appropriate lawyers, drafted, and ready to sign literally in a few days.
Now's the time to get started.
Exactly. I want the EO issued win or lose because until then we have gained nothing. I want the Court and maybe the Congress just try to say open borders is required by the constitution and is the policy of congress. Then we can at can move on and create a legitimate American political party.
Both Congress and the Courts have defined "under the jurisdiction thereof" and ruled that it doesn't include illegal aliens. So the President is entirely within his Constitutional authority to issue an Executive Order saying:
Starting on the day the Order is published, the children born on that date or later on U.S. soil, of illegal aliens who entered or stayed in the U.S. without permission, are not American citizens. As such, they must be deported along with their parents when the family is healthy and safe to travel. They (and their parents) cannot become U.S. Citizens unless they go through the legal procedures for legal entry and naturalization.
The House of Representatives (which will do nothing that Trump approves of, no matter how much it would help the U.S.) need not do anything, they can't approve or disapprove an EO that is based on earlier Acts of Congress or Supreme Court rulings. The only way they could block such an EO, is either:
1.) to make a new law saying the definition of "under the jurisdiction" is now changed to include illegal aliens... and get it to also pass the Senate and get signed by the President.
-or-
2.) to get the Courts to pretend it's not constitutional. Good luck doing that with the large numbers of law-abiding judges and justices Trump has been appointing and getting confirmed by the Senate.
He should start preparing such an EO now. It must be kept quiet until signed, so we don't get a huge flood of illegal aliens crashing the border to try to give birth here before it goes into effect. The President could conceivably have this vetted by appropriate lawyers, drafted, and ready to sign literally in a few days.
Now's the time to get started.
In order for that order to have any legitimacy, one would have to show that illegal aliens are less "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States than legal ones. Can you explain how?
Both Congress and the Courts have defined "under the jurisdiction thereof" and ruled that it doesn't include illegal aliens. So the President is entirely within his Constitutional authority to issue an Executive Order saying: Starting on the day the Order is published, the children born on that date or later on U.S. soil, of illegal aliens who entered or stayed in the U.S. without permission, are not American citizens. As such, thry must be deported along with their parents when the family is healthy and safe to travel. They (and their parents) cannot become U.S. Citizens unless they go through the legal procedures for legal entry and naturalization.
The House of Representatives (which will do nothing that Trump approves of, no matter how much it would help the U.S.) need not do anything, they can't approve or disapprove an EO that is based on earlier Acts of Congress or Supreme Court rulings. The only way they could block such an EO, is either:
1.) to make a new law saying the definition of "under the jurisdiction" is now changed to include illegal aliens... and get it to also pass the Senate and get signed by the President.
-or-
2.) to get the Courts to pretend it's not constitutional. Good luck doing that with the large numbers of law-abiding judges and justices Trump has been appointing and getting confirmed by the Senate.
He should start preparing such an EO now. It must be kept quiet until signed, so we don't get a huge flood of illegal aliens crashing the border to try to give birth here before it goes into effect. The President could conceivably have this vetted by appropriate lawyers, drafted, and ready to sign literally in a few days.
Now's the time to get started.
He confirmed this morning.
It is happening and let the courts decide, while it is implemented. Jump to the SC quick.
The Constitution says "...and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" to determine if someone born in the U.S. is a citizen. But the Const never defined it.
Which means that it's up to the only other legislative body to define it - Congress. And they did.
In the same year the 14th amendment was written and proposed by Congress, they also wrote in the Civil Rights Act of 1866, "... all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States".
So there's your answer, explaining what the same Congress in the same year meant when they wrote, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the 14th amendment. If someone is "subject to any foreign power", he is not a citizen of the U.S.
And guess what: That covers illegal aliens, and their U.S. born babies. They are subject to the power of the country they came from. So they are not citizens.
So says Congress.
Your argument is that they aren't subject to US laws. Which makes zero sense.
He should start preparing such an EO now. It must be kept quiet until signed, so we don't get a huge flood of illegal aliens crashing the border to try to give birth here before it goes into effect. The President could conceivably have this vetted by appropriate lawyers, drafted, and ready to sign literally in a few days.
Now's the time to get started.
ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
You were a sucker if you voted for him believing that he was actually going to do this.
He said it to get gullible people like you to vote republican.
And you fell for it hook line and sinker.
There will be no wall, no birthright stripping, and it will be business as usual with illegal immigrants.
When will you learn?
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Yeah, I saw a big sway towards the Republican candidates in this mid term election because of the above. Oh, that's right, the GOP lost the house just as predicted before any of the above occurred. 
