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And for some, like the patrons of the bar in Thousand Oaks, it is time to die. It's a small price to pay to ensure your 2cd amendment rights, true?
It is not a SMALL price, but it is THE price. Let me ask you and everyone else......... Are there ANY rights that you believe are worth lives? If so, list them now.
And for some, like the patrons of the bar in Thousand Oaks, it is time to die. It's a small price to pay to ensure your 2cd amendment rights, true?
Yes
First, we'll never get Australian style rules and bans
Second, time to avoid gun free zones without enough armed security
In summary it's 2018 we need to act accordingly since we have an estimated 400 million firearms on our streets now and we simply don't all get along for crap. Many of us just hate each other. Knowing that, I'll adjust my ways to lessen the odds of being a target.
They're tools for hunting and protecting. But they are built to destroy whatever they're being aimed at.So they are also to be respected as dangerous tools and can be used as weapons.
At the same time I feel like people use guns to project an image. To glorify themselves.
On the other hand people are just completely anti gun because they never handled one and don't understand how to use one.
But we should all agree that we wanna make sure that guns are only in the hands of those who are educated and also in a sane state of mind.
That's my two cents..
We appreciate your concerns. Wanna expand on the part where gun owners must be educated?
We appreciate your concerns. Wanna expand on the part where gun owners must be educated?
I can't speak for the OP, but this is one rare occasion when I agree with phantompilot:
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Originally Posted by phantompilot
Common sense. Gun is a tool. A potentially lethal tool. Everyone who has custody of one, should be trained in its safe handling, operation and storage.
Gun ownership is a right. It is also a heavy responsibility, and should be treated as such.
They're tools for hunting and protecting. But they are built to destroy whatever they're being aimed at.So they are also to be respected as dangerous tools and can be used as weapons.
At the same time I feel like people use guns to project an image. To glorify themselves.
On the other hand people are just completely anti gun because they never handled one and don't understand how to use one.
But we should all agree that we wanna make sure that guns are only in the hands of those who are educated and also in a sane state of mind.
That's my two cents..
I don't own a gun...never have.
As the mass shootings continue, so will the attack on guns. More gun control, abolish this and that. As a naive person towards guns, I do think certain items should be kept out of the hands of the general public.
At the end of the day, my overall belief is that guns take the rap for the bad things, and I don't think guns are the real problem. Psychology is the problem. Call it mental illness to those who carry out these terrible acts. Funding should be funneled much more towards research of this subject. Guns are simply the tool, whether it be for hunting or for the mentally ill.
Heard all this argument from the gun rights folks a thousand times.
What I have finally concluded is that at the end of the day they believe that the ever increasing bloodshed we see due to gun violence in the USA is a small price to pay to ensure that there is no restriction on their right to own weapons.
Their rationalization for this immoral stance is based on paranoia for the most part.
Take that fanatical viewpoint, and add in the fact that the firearms industry makes untold billions in profit by promoting this paranoia, and you have a situation that will only continue to get worse.
There is no solution for this one folks. Get over it. Mass slaughters by gun WILL continue to increase, as our society becomes more and more divided and the structure of civility and mutual respect keeps disintegrating. The 2cd amendment guarantees this.
Heard all this argument from the anti-gun rights folks a thousand times.
What I have finally concluded is that at the end of the day they believe that the bloodshed we see due to government abdicating its duty to punish gun criminals can be used in a fallacious argument to try to enact restrictions on those people least likely to cause mayhem or injury with their guns.
Their rationalization for this immoral stance is based on the advancement of a leftist agenda for the most part that stands the foundational principles of liberty and justice on their head. The concept of original, fundamental --not granted by government --rights must be extinguished.
Take that fanatical viewpoint, and add in the fact that anti-gunners really, really, really distrust their fellow citizens, and you arrive at the present state of benevolent leftist authoritarianism. They feel that without the guiding hand of their vision of government, regular citizens will devolve into racist, sexist, homophobic, violent sub-humans. This paranoia is contrasted by leftists welcoming and embracing foreigners who have no affinity for the US's foundational principles or even basic respect for any values of Western society in general.
Now, mix in their coddling and nurturing of the violent criminal underclass, and you have a situation that will only continue to get worse. BUT, while they point to crime as a defect of our society that must be addressed, they only say that to argue for more laws on the law-abiding . . . It is clear that leftists believe that the chaos and pain caused by criminals is less of a threat to their conception of a 'perfect society' than citizens who think themselves free and independent and who cherish their rights and freedom. Who they deem the enemy is quite evident.
There is no solution for this one folks. Get over it. Both everyday criminal brutality and mass slaughters by gun WILL continue to increase, as our society becomes more and more divided and the structure of the rule of law, civility and mutual respect keeps being denigrated and dismantled. The leftist's core disrespect for citizens and utter rejection of the US's foundational principles and rights guarantees this.
And for some, like the patrons of the bar in Thousand Oaks, it is time to die. It's a small price to pay to ensure your 2cd amendment rights, true?
LOL.
The people of California have no "2nd Amendment rights".
The federal 2nd Amendment remains unenforced in the state and California is a state that has no right to arms provision in its state constitution. The state legislature has taken this to mean that anything goes and they are free to enact whatever gun control they desire.
They're tools for hunting and protecting. But they are built to destroy whatever they're being aimed at.So they are also to be respected as dangerous tools and can be used as weapons.
At the same time I feel like people use guns to project an image. To glorify themselves.
On the other hand people are just completely anti gun because they never handled one and don't understand how to use one.
But we should all agree that we wanna make sure that guns are only in the hands of those who are educated and also in a sane state of mind.
That's my two cents..
Agreed, but where we always get stuck is the how. It's hard for us to understand how we can make this happen when any proposal will be politicized and filtered through whichever political sphere/bubble we belong to.
It is not a SMALL price, but it is THE price. Let me ask you and everyone else......... Are there ANY rights that you believe are worth lives? If so, list them now.
How about the Constitution? Look at how many people have died, starting with the revolution, to secure our rights. If you do away with the 2nd, which are you willing to give up next? Free speech maybe?
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