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Old 11-09-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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A writer named Kristen Koch wrote a 1/23/2017 article called "Fake News And Higher Thinking" for The Odyssey Online, a publication-style social content web site, that brings this up this point that I am paraphrasing: unintentional fake news happened during the last Presidential election when reporters wanted to release election news while it was still hot off the figurative press. In wanting to get news out faster, there is the chance of inaccuracies or complete falsehoods. Compare to that to deliberate fake news. For this, she mentioned then-recent studies showing that Middle Eastern and Balkan teens were generating for-profit fake news. Those teens don't care about their own credibility as long as those news gets attention.

Various ABC News, CNBC, MSNBC, CBS News, Fox News, and CNN stories fall under both categories.

 
Old 11-09-2018, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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A writer named Kristen Koch wrote a 1/23/2017 article called "Fake News And Higher Thinking" for The Odyssey Online, a publication-style social content web site, that brings this up this point that I am paraphrasing: unintentional fake news happened during the last Presidential election when reporters wanted to release election news while it was still hot off the figurative press. In wanting to get news out faster, there is the chance of inaccuracies or complete falsehoods. Compare to that to deliberate fake news. For this, she mentioned then-recent studies showing that Middle Eastern and Balkan teens were generating for-profit fake news. Those teens don't care about their own credibility as long as those news gets attention.
Front page news this is not.
 
Old 11-09-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Everyone knows the Trump/conservative playbook by now: stir up lies, garbage conspiracy theories...and then accuse everyone else of "fake news."
 
Old 11-09-2018, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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A writer named Kristen Koch wrote a 1/23/2017 article called "Fake News And Higher Thinking" for The Odyssey Online, a publication-style social content web site, that brings this up this point that I am paraphrasing: unintentional fake news happened during the last Presidential election when reporters wanted to release election news while it was still hot off the figurative press. In wanting to get news out faster, there is the chance of inaccuracies or complete falsehoods. Compare to that to deliberate fake news. For this, she mentioned then-recent studies showing that Middle Eastern and Balkan teens were generating for-profit fake news. Those teens don't care about their own credibility as long as those news gets attention.
This is an extremely important distinction that is often over-looked (especially by conservatives in these C-D threads). Mistakes happen, and bias happens (e.g., giving extra attention to stories that favor a political agenda while down-playing stories that are not so helpful). But flat-out literal fake news is significantly different. In general, if a mistake is made, the news outlet will eventually apologize for the mistake. (And bias is countered by other news sources who have the opposite biases pointing out what has been ignored, so that someone who gets their info from multiple sources across the political spectrum can, in principle, get a more comprehensive overview.)

The burden of fake news is the overwhelming flood of intentionally false stories intended to sway the opinions of people who are likely to believe anything that favors their own agenda. A related goal is to swamp public debate with irrelevant clutter so that high-level, thoughtful, fact-checked debates in the public sphere are nearly impossible to maintain.
The links I posted earlier are helpful for making the distinction:
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Totally unlike this you mean?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyvITYrYgNE



Maybe Acosta was just taking from his leader's example.
It ain't the Jim Acosta Show, that's for sure!
LOL


Trumps, THE BOSS!
 
Old 11-09-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Everyone knows the Trump/conservative playbook by now: stir up lies, garbage conspiracy theories...and then accuse everyone else of "fake news."
That is why Trump has the NSA "ON DEMAND" He knows exactly what is going on, as they say it.
Just like Obama.
 
Old 11-09-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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The irony of the White House video involving Jim Acosta is that it shows the administration to be doing what it accuses the news media of doing—engaging in fake information.


See my shocked face:
 
Old 11-09-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Well, it's at lest convenient for Trump. If he really wants to stop Fake News!, let him begin with his own people.


https://www.apnews.com/c575bd1cc3b1456cb3057ef670c7fe2a
The White House via Sanders said they don't know where the video came from. I seriously doubt they doctored it. I really can't believe people have time on their hands enough to sit and watch videos frame by frame...
 
Old 11-09-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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The White House via Sanders said they don't know where the video came from. I seriously doubt they doctored it. I really can't believe people have time on their hands enough to sit and watch videos frame by frame...
Right, they lied again to attempt to find an excuse for their first lie. In case you haven't been paying attention for the past 2 years, that is kind of their thing.
 
Old 11-09-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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Straight from the person that published it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo7ORobbXPw
In this video, the guy keeps saying Acosta tried to restrain the woman. No he didn’t. He pressed down with his arm to keep her from taking the mic. It wasn’t rough or an attack. People are making it out like he grabbed her forcefully. Do I think the video was doctored? No. But it doesn’t show him doing anything wrong.
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