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Old 11-12-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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What are you talking about? I asked when it was not a necessity for a bill to pass both House and Senate to become law? Are you claiming that was never the case?
It may be that you are confusing people.
One moment you claim to know it and the next completely ignorant of it, claiming Trump can do everything on his own without congress. Pick a side and stick with it and see if that clears up the confusion.
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Old 11-12-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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It may be that you are confusing people.
One moment you claim to know it and the next completely ignorant of it, claiming Trump can do everything on his own without congress. Pick a side and stick with it and see if that clears up the confusion.
Man, sarcasm just whizzes by some people.


OK, Burdell. Stop rolling around and eating the carpet and screaming for a few minutes. phma is right. It has always been the law - well, not always, but for a way long time like 100 years - that no one person can rule America.
Obama didn't screw it up by himself. He had help from Hillary, Holder, John Brennen, Nancy, Chuck, and just a whole bunch of people. And together they screwed it up. Empowered the ne're-do-wells and handcuffed the cops. On and on.
Trump & Co. will straighten it out. Like adolescent children who have been denied permission to go to the mall and hang out, the Dems have thrown a fit and voted themselves into power. Now that they have power in The House they will investigate, and pass resolutions, and impeach and so forth. They know it will go nowhere, but it's what children do, so they're gonna do it. It's the world they live in.
I gotta put up with an occasional dog pooping in my yard and I gotta put up with some Democrats. It's all part of life.
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Old 11-12-2018, 06:29 PM
 
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trump tried to push through a health care alternative, but congress, the body in this country that makes the laws, would not work with him on that. in fact he had to work hard just to get the tax cuts through congress, and that is something the republicans actually wanted to do. there were far too many anti trumpers in the republican party at the time.



and for that matter, look how long it took obama to get anything through congress when the democrats had a virtual super majority until the republicans took back the house, and obama was popular with the democrats on congress.

No. No he did not try to push anything through for a healthcare plan. He had ZERO plans for it. NONE. Not a single idea at all. He just had a bunch of promises he made to get elected, but no actual plan. He lied. Just like he normally does. I would have loved to have seen a plan, but there just wasn't one.

Trump could have done something big here. But he never had a plan at all.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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The democrats took over the house because the majority in our country want checks and balances on Trump. Someone has to do it since republicans have no backbone to stand up to him.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:29 PM
 
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The democrats took over the house because the majority in our country want checks and balances on Trump. Someone has to do it since republicans have no backbone to stand up to him.

Don't be silly, a Subpoena Cannon, is not checks and balances. Its criminalizing politics. Its the Inquision by liberal/democrats looking to root out and punish the conservative POV considered heresy.

They may burn a few witches but in two years the public will have enough of it. That's how the Inquision always ended in the past. The more rational people eventually emerge and shut it down. In the meantime we will see the process playout all across government like the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing. False accusations and selective release of information from investigations as democrats run to the cameras. So many investigations there is no way the working public could ever keep up with them.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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I wonder how the Dems will feel after two more years of wasted time, money and grandstanding by their elected politicians. All they care about is destroying Trump which will have no affect on anyone's lives.

Trump will say they got nothing done while he managed to get a health care bill pushed through the Senate and signed. One has been sitting there for months as well as hundreds of other bills. If Dems don't participate they will look foolish. 2020 elections could eliminate their majority.

And there is that pesky Senate Judicial Committee bringing out the big guns with criminal referrals to the DoJ for SpyGate. Exciting times ahead!
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:09 AM
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No. No he did not try to push anything through for a healthcare plan. He had ZERO plans for it. NONE. Not a single idea at all. He just had a bunch of promises he made to get elected, but no actual plan. He lied. Just like he normally does. I would have loved to have seen a plan, but there just wasn't one.

Trump could have done something big here. But he never had a plan at all.
That is what is so sad about this whole thing. Trump had a chance to be a true trans-formative president once the election was over. Instead of spending his time fighting on twitter, he could have spent his time and efforts on things like actually fixing the ACA, a tax cut tilted toward the middle income instead of the rich, a much needed infrastructure program and truly reforming immigration.

But instead of trying to get people to work together, he chose to continually appeal to his base and be their president and ignore the rest. He seems to have no interest in doing anything that is hard and doesn't bring him instant gratification and appears to enjoy being combative. Talk about the waste of an opportunity. But being a true leader is just not in his DNA.

And now he will pay the price over the next two years as they most likely will not be pleasant for him.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:30 AM
 
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That is what is so sad about this whole thing. Trump had a chance to be a true trans-formative president once the election was over. Instead of spending his time fighting on twitter, he could have spent his time and efforts on things like actually fixing the ACA, a tax cut tilted toward the middle income instead of the rich, a much needed infrastructure program and truly reforming immigration.

But instead of trying to get people to work together, he chose to continually appeal to his base and be their president and ignore the rest. He seems to have no interest in doing anything that is hard and doesn't bring him instant gratification and appears to enjoy being combative. Talk about the waste of an opportunity. But being a true leader is just not in his DNA.

And now he will pay the price over the next two years as they most likely will not be pleasant for him.
BS. Utter BS. Trump is just about the only one doing a good job of doing his job. Less than 2 years in, and things are doing very nicely. BTW, the middle class pay almost none of the tsxes in America.
Overwelmingly, that is done by the "rich".
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:53 AM
 
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"We will have accountability," Pelosi said. The expected Democrat committee chairs focus on the Subpoena Cannon not legislation. Nancy is correct. Accountability 2020, maybe.

Elections do and will have consequences. The political process is being criminalized. Legislation is yesterdays fish wrap. Apparently that is what the voters want and they are never wrong.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hou...related-probes

"subpoena cannon": 85+ Trump targets
https://www.axios.com/newsletters/ax...chunk=0#story0
Elections do have consequences. Including 2018's.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:47 AM
 
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What exact legislation COULD the house Dems actually get through? You saw with immigration reform that the President isn't even in line with his own party. The House's best option right now is to act as a complete check on the criminal occupying the white house. Finally he will get push back instead of endless support from his feckless sycophants.
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