Kids in school know who Martin Luther King is, don't know who Sir Isaac Newton is (Iran, radical)

[golgi1]

Originally Posted by burdell

I'm not buying the allegation in the thread title until it's supported by facts.

And I'm not buying the implication that liberals are solely responsible until that's also supported by facts.

Well, c'mon. If it is true, then it is obvious that liberals would be responsible.

The imbalance on the MLK education would be a fact that would make them responsible.

Conservatives aren't rallying to increase MLK education. Since liberals are, and if they fail to monitor and correct any imbalance that such lobbying may cause, they are responsible for that imbalance.

If you'd like, we can audit what the curriculum was before the civil rights movement to verify.

[TigerLily24]

Originally Posted by wallbuilder

Yea, I'm not buying the idea that liberals are "pro-education" or "pro-reason."

This is meaningless without context.

What population of students are we talking about?
What age groups?

From where did this tidbit of information in your thread title originate?

[Brave New World]

Originally Posted by golgi1

How is it interesting when there is no proof of the OPs statement (that he cited)?

Saying that this thread is interesting is like saying that a thread based on me stating "the sky is red" is interesting, unless I were to cite a source.

My intuition says the OP is correct, but if he's not then the discussion is risking group endorsement of a false premise. We don't want to behave like progressives.

I am not endorsing the fact, indeed why should most Americans know who an English Scientist who was born in 1643 and died in 1727 was, the US wasn't even a country at the time.

Saying that there has been no proof provided that most Americans don't know who Newton is, however I suspect more recent scientists may be more well known than Newton due to media attention.

It's slighly different in the UK, where Newton is a celebrated national figure in the same way Einstein is, and Newton has even been on banknotes and stamps.

[sware2cod]

This thread is a perfect example of a thread that Russian trolls would create - with the sole purpose of sowing racial discord in the USA. Sad that people fall for it and start infighting over race.

I am not saying the OP is a Russian troll. But I wouldn't be surprised if the initial idea of this thread started from a Russian troll farm somewhere, and then spread to various forums.

[wallbuilder]

Originally Posted by LINative

I would argue that Martin Luther King has far more relevance to Americans then Sir Isaac Newtown.

Are you joking? This is the Father of Physics we're talking about.

[Mouser]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Education today is more about political indoctrination, and being PC than learning those things that can help us in life. Diversity, Multi Culturalism, Anti Capitalism, White Privilege, etc are the new three R's.

It's been their plan for quite some time


The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals


Sources are listed below.

Microfilm: California State University at San Jose Clark Library, Government Floor Phone (408)924-2770 Microfilm Call Number: J 11.R5

Congressional Record, Vol. 109 88th Congress, 1st Session Appendix Pages A1-A2842 Jan. 9-May 7, 1963 Reel 12


15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations





“Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.”


Quote: James Madison

[burdell]

Originally Posted by golgi1

Well, c'mon. If it is true, then it is obvious that liberals would be responsible.

WHY? Because conservatives are such slackers at giving a rat's ass about education?

Originally Posted by golgi1

The imbalance on the MLK education would be a fact that would make them responsible.

Conservatives aren't rallying to increase MLK education. Since liberals are, and if they fail to monitor and correct any imbalance that such lobbying may cause, they are responsible for that imbalance.

If you'd like, we can audit what the curriculum was before the civil rights movement to verify.

What I'd like is for you to supply facts rather than your 'The Liberals! whine.

[Chicano3000X]

Originally Posted by wallbuilder

Are you joking? This is the Father of Physics we're talking about.

Ya there’s many physicists out there. Of course he’s important. Folks eventually read about him.

No one needs to advocate for gravity as we see it everyday and if you take an interest in science then yes you will hear about him.

MLK is significant in that his time was alot more recent and the reason why we don’t send people to the back of the bus or put a sign in a public space that bars a group of peope from using it based on their color.

Thats pretty damn significant especially in today’s climate.

No ones gonna forget about gravity.

But it looks like we’re forgetting about valuing historic figures that changed the course of our history.
The reason a few of my friends can sit with me at a restaurant and not habe to worry about being arrested for drinking at the wrong fountain.

Im guessing whomever started this thread doesnt like that..

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Brave New World

I am not endorsing the fact, indeed why should most Americans know who an English Scientist who was born in 1643 and died in 1727 was, the US wasn't even a country at the time.

Why not? Why shouldn't a healthy curiosity about the world we live in be encouraged in people?

[Chicano3000X]

Originally Posted by Mouser

Here are a few from Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama's
actions and quotes


Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama,


it was you who on ABC News referenced "My Muslim Faith."
It was you who told an Islamic dinner "I am one of you."
It was you who gave $100 million U.S. taxpayer funds to rebuild foreign mosques.
It was you who wrote that, in the event of a conflict "I will stand with the Muslims."
It was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that ""I am a Muslim."
It was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
It was you who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and America while professing Marxism.
It was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that everyone else has to pay.
It was you who purposefully omitted "endowed by our Creator" from your recitation of The Declaration of Independence.
It was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's Sermon On the Mount while repeatedly referring to the 'Holy Quran'.
It was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States of America.
It was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of a 'Ground Zero Victory' mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center.
It was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic Prayer Breakfast at the White House.
It was you who ordered both Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak but, in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited to adjust their decor.
It was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.
It was you who appointed rabid Islamists to the Homeland Security.
It was you who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an outreach to Muslim communities.
It was you who, as an Illinois Senator, were the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide.
It was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the White House and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.
It was you who curtailed the military tribunals of Islamic terrorists.
It was you who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.
It was you who refused to speak out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture but yet have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human rights abuses.
It was you who, when queried in India, refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorist assaults.
It was you who funneled $900 million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
It was you who ordered the USPS to honor a Muslim holiday with a new commemorative stamp.
It was you who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help 'empower' the British Muslim community.
It was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.
It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in grammar schools across our country.
It is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan.
It is you who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for not participating in seasonal White House religious events.
It was you who was uncharacteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, formerly America's strongest ally in North Africa; buy remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians and destruction of Coptic Christian churches.
It was you who appointed, as your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, who is an avowed member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Yes, Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama, it is you who is a socialist Islamist. Continuing in your quest to 'completely transform America'.

It Was, and Is, YOU! The evidence is clear for all except for the blind, deaf and stupid.

Its too early to be taking crazy pills mannnn..