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Old 11-13-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by lkb0714 View Post
I hope the kids lose their colleges admissions/scholarships; except the one kid on the end who refused to play along.
Damn.

Is there anyone who can pick a middle ground on this issue?

It was a joke. Don't ruin their lives over it.

Don't let it slide though. They are 16-17 years old. They can be put in situations of discomfort while learning why what they did was wrong.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It would be foolish to assume that it was nothing but a joke to all of them. Its clear a few of the boys thought it was in poor taste, hence they did not partake. A few others went along but probably didn't think much of it. Some probably thought they were being edgy. The boy in the front row flashing the two white supremacists hand signals is the one to worry about.
The ones who didn't do it obviously have better judgement. When you're dealing with a bunch of boys that age on their own you get high compliance on stupidity.

Take the kid doing the white supremacist hand signals somewhere local and give him a dose of reality.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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The kids obviously meant it as a joke. Their facial expressions give it away.

Having said that, and while acknowledging free will, it would be nice if some responsible adults had a word with them over it.
Yes. Now THAT is a rational suggestion that I can actually support. Hysteria over a stupid joke is not the answer. Adults acting like adults rather than witch hunters IS the answer.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I hope the kids lose their colleges admissions/scholarships; except the one kid on the end who refused to play along.
Yes, ruin their lives because they did something stupid, like you and all other teenagers have never done.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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Goodness gracious.

You must know that freedom of speech and expression ONLY protects you from being arrested and prosecuted by your government. It has NOTHING to do with natural consequences of your actions. Say, a college sees this photo and there's little Johnny Smith throwing up the good ole Sieg Heil for all to see. Said college doesn't want Johnny Smith on their campus because he either supports Nazism or thinks the whole thing is a joke. So bye bye Johnny. THAT is not a violation of freedom of speech and expression. It's natural consequences for being an idiot.
It was made abundantly clear by the principal when I was in high school that we did not have the constitutional "rights" of adults as students at a public school.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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Wait a minute. That flag appears to pre-date National Socialism.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Again context. That was pre World-War II.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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What about a "teachable moment"? Explain to them the significance of that symbol.

I already said it was a joke but that doesn't mean you go too far in either direction.
I thought your idea was a good one. And luckily they still have some concentration camp survivors who are alive to come talk to these kids. They really ought to do that in an assembly.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:22 PM
 
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I thought your idea was a good one. And luckily they still have some concentration camp survivors who are alive to come talk to these kids. They really ought to do that in an assembly.
Another well-thought-out response.
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