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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd
Both parties are a mess and it is not Trumps fault. Trump is merely the outcome of a a confused Republican party that can't seem to get on board with a solid message and the Democrat party that has swung to the far Left and offer the wrong message.
If the Dems can't step away from their identity politics, their victim blaming/shaming, blaming the Police for the problems in minority communities while calling them all racist, calling for ICE to be disbanded and championing the Rights of illegal immigrants while skipping over so many needy citizens we will be seeing another term for Trump come 2020.
Considering what the Dems seem to stand for today another 4 years of Trump might actually be a positive for America as a whole.
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I'll put it to you like this.
When I lived in NY, the Republicans there, weren't real republicans.
They're Rinos. Republican In Name Only.
When I would correspond with elected republican officials, I always heard the same song and dance canned response. We must work together with our friends across the aisle.
In other words... we must capitulate on our beliefs and policies to appease the polar opposite of our stance. We've become a uniparty form of government and you're just wasting your time and energy being concerned about it.
That isn't who I am.
I don't capitulate. Compromise, maybe. Submit? No. Not at all. I won't be urinated on and told it's rain and that it's good for me. I don't elect representatives to make friends. That's for them to do on their time and their dime.
I looked at the map for the 2018 election in NY. What was it. 4 counties were blue, the rest, red? And Herr Cuomo is re-elected?
So, if you're a republican in NY, you're reading this, you're tired of asinine taxes?
Tired of being seen as a threat to the public for believing in the 2nd?
Tired of having to pay and/or ask the crown for permission?
Tired of falsely being labeled a phobosisticismist?
Tired of poor roads and high costs of living?
Tired of the heroin and opioid epidemic?
Tired of the corruption in Albany?
Tired of busy bodies?
Take Cuomos message serious, how there is no room for you in NY, and leave.
Move to a free state. Leave the "how we do things back home" BS in NY and move to a free state. If I can do it at 28, you can do it too. Elect real republicans and not capitulating rinos.
If 4 counties run NY, and your way of life is constantly judged as evil or wrong, or if you oppose high costs of living and high taxes, blatting about it isn't going to do anything when the representatives you elect to oppose "NY Values" go in to help uphold them. Leave.
Same goes for CT, MA, NJ.
I laugh like hell. I joined the RPOF a couple months ago. I attend the meetings and all I hear about from those who are members mostly north east transplants is vehement opposition to raising taxes and the cost of living. Everything else is negotiable. No. It isnt.
I'm the youngest member there.
And these idiots I tell them in the meetings, where they're dead wrong, they can't understand it. They stare like drooling idiots. But that's not how we did things back home, is what I hear the most. And I tell them, because you aren't back home. Want to go back home?
Do it. But you can't can you? No. You can't afford to retire in NY. Yet. You are willing to capitulate on everything else that plays a role in raising costs of living and taxes elsewhere. You're willing to forfeit rights of others to appease nanny staters. How stupid can you be? It's like sprinkling sugar around windows and door frames and wondering why you have an ant infestation...
Like the local amendments on the ballot. They were torn on the vaping and banning off shore drilling one... Most vape to quit smoking cigarettes. But you mention putting oil rigs off the coast ruining the view of the ocean from their well groomed gated HOA? Oh hell no.
I told them all. There's a huge problem for the future of this state. And that lies with its economy. You want a younger generation with fresh and sustainable ideas? Fix this states economy. You see, seasonal work provided via Disney Tropicana Tourism and customer service provides dirt wages.
A guy who is a charter boat captain with 4 boats employing 15 total spoke out how it would ruin his business if.
Operable word, if.
I asked him.
Which would you rather.
1. 4-7 months out of the year feast with 5-8 months famine taking tourists and snowbirds out deep sea fishing at a couple hundred bucks per head.
2. Year round trips taking rough necks, steam fitters, engineers etc, to oil rigs at 1-2k per trip while still chartering fishing trips? The steady money providing opportunities for in house mechanics for the boats, the steady money providing opportunities for more captains to pilot more boats, more boats bought = more employment opportunities for boat builders, your deckhands can get raises, you already have no state income tax, your employees can get raises like mine did, and you, well, we all, gain relevancy amongst the younger generations for providing sustainable wages and more job opportunities other than serving busy body carpet baggers.
Dude looked at me and said. Hey. You're right. I didn't think of that.
I'm sure he didnt. He's only concerned about him, his business. The here and now. Not what could be.
Someone else chimes in. Oh but there was the spill in the Gulf! We already have algae issues blah blah blah. I own a bar/restaurant near the view of the coast.
After I rolled my eyes, I asked him.
Which would you rather.
1. 4-7 months of the year feast with 5-8 months famine taking orders from tourists and snowbirds.
2. Year round profit with locals who earn more from fulfilling and sustainable employment that can now afford to spend money in your establishment every Friday night-Sunday. Or even during the week?
Think about it. Most locals are landscapers, property management, retail/service industry, mechanics, etc. All earning 30-50k each. 60-100k per household.
If they have kids, are they able to provide them with going out to eat every week once or twice a week? Are they able to afford a celebratory Friday night at your establishment every week? I'll bet not. They've got rent/mortgages. A vehicle falling apart barely able to get them from A-B. Insurance. The works.
Instead of 10-16 per hour wages being the norm. How about... the deck hands on Mr Fishing trip guys boats making 10-15 per hour, be rough necks and steam fitters on a rig, earning 20-40 per hour. Or maybe, they get raises and can afford to go to your establishment and live it up, drink it down, on a Friday night, rather than going home sigh in disappointment and get ready for their second job.
Then the real estate agent lady spoke up.
But that means I won't be able to sell ocean view properties as frequently! Home values will drop! Then my interests are compromised!
I responded
Which would you rather.
1. Sell houses to retirees and North east carpet baggers that want to vote against you, who are only here 4-7 months out of the year at 200k-2M along the coast for that sweet sweet commission check.
2. Sell houses to those currently leasing/renting to be able to vote with you, to be able to support themselves with better economic opportunities than to serve snowbirds for 4-7 months then live like hermits for the remainder? Instead of that sweet sweet big commission check and only having what... 3 agents under your belt, you make it up in volume, and have 6 more agents under your belt.
Plus, each house having to be inspected, there's money in the home inspectors/contractors pockets being circulated. Engineers who survey the plots each time the house transfers hands, there's money in their pockets.
How can you not support this? Plus with those earning a sustainable wage, you are able to sell more houses to those able to afford a mortgage that's cheaper or the same rate as they currently are paying in rent!
Finally there was someone else who spoke up. A property manager for a couple big HOAs.
And what about my interests? I oversee the operations of 2 55+ communities and 1 mixed age gated community and what will happen when those people leave because you've alienated them?!
Easy.
Let them leave, what you currently charge in fees and dues younger generations who work for a living stuck making the 10 12 14 16 per hour wages can afford to take their place. Whats the going price on average in your one 55+ community for a small town house or mobile home? 15k-115k? Real Estate lady says no, less, I've sold mobile homes for as little as 4k dollars and as high as 20k for brand new. Town houses I'm selling for 40-100k square footage depending.
Yearly dues are low due to the volume of occupants of 600-1000 per year.
Oh goody! I turn back to the property manager and said.
You contract out private landscape companies to maintain appearances who are paying minimum wage-15 per hour.
So what if their employees first house is either a small town house or a mobile home?
They'll have a sense of pride, a sense of owmership, a sense of community rather than playing house in mom and dad's garage as there is no basements down here. Aren't we the party of self reliance self sustaining and personal responsibility? Why cater solely to those who want to tell you how things are done back home and are only here for the tax shelter?
You're all here worried about an avowed socialist becoming governor. Yet you're ignorant to those who'd willingly vote for the socialist because they're busting their ass in this heat and humidity to serve holier than thou carpet baggers and actually need some form of financial help be it a 2nd job 3rd job or high taxes placed against you me and everyone in this room to float them so they only have to work 1 remedial dirt paying job.
Look around this room. No offense. You're all what. 50 60 70?
Most hailing from the northeast?
Let me guess. Ya'll have pensions social security and investments, mostly retired right? You can live like kings here. Back home youd be lucky to live on eating canned cat food or be stuck in a retirement home and would lose most of that money in taxes, if the socialist wins and you have the means to up and sell and relocate to another low cost of living state. Those who serve you, CANT. If they can, it's only through the help of family/friends out of state. Or they'll gladly vote in favor to tax you to redistribute your wealth to them.
Choice is yours. Be rinos and go on about Muh Environment Muh Ocean views Muh Snowbirdz. Or be realistic and wake up to the fact we have a chitty seasonal economy that provides little to no opportunity... I didn't leave NY to relocate to a tropical NY. So. I ask. Why? Honestly why would you support your own demise and lend credibility to the socialist governor that's running?
Far as lake O and the algae is concerned mark my words the feeble efforts ya'll want to run will come back to bite us. You're wasting money in an effort to throw your hands up and say welp, we did something, can't say we didnt. Problem is, the way you want to go about it isn't going to do a damn thing to stop the algae. Contain it. Maybe. Stop it? Reverse it? Nope.
You have federal dollars due to the army corps of engineers running/maintaining it.
Do something wise and worthwhile to hell with your reservoirs.
Truck clay in, go to every farm near the tributaries that feed into lake O.
Put that impermeable barrier and require those farms to be self contained with no chances to leak fertilizers and pesticides into the tributaries that feed the lake. The socialist will fine and tax them. What's cheaper for them in the long run?
Free to them, clay barriers to prevent flood/run off from their fields going into the tributaries to contribute/promote algae growth, and them having to put drainage, pumps, and storage tanks for excess water from their fields to be used at a future time for irrigation. Or taxing and fining them out the ass?
Then. You get some boat captains to run dredging boats and clean the silt out of the tributaries and lake. Put a cement pit or clay barrier down, take said silt, throw it in, grow sunflowers and/or hemp as its proven to clean soil/silt contamination. Harvest the oils to be used for medicinal purposes to an alternative fuel source for diesel farm equipment, utilize the hemp fibers to replace fiberglass and viola. Most of the problem solved.
Then put fountains in along the lake to aerate the water since you can't realistically cool the water short of huge nuke reactors powering large cooling stations to cool the water in vain as the sun will only heat it up.
Algae problem solved.
But go on and tell me reservoirs and scheduling purges of the lake are the end all be all and will net a positive outcome.
Problem with the republican party is their ignorance and stupidity naivety believing they can work with democrats who want more credence and reliance in government programs to offset costs of living that Democrats put in place to begin with, in the form of high taxes and cost burden regulations! Rather than seeing the blatantly obvious fix.
I liken most of those members to being country club members who only care about themselves and their benefit and not the benefit to younger generations. I thought we were three party of and for small business owners. I shook them to their core and got them to come to an understanding their ways are hurting them.
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